Who needs to go for this club to move forward

My point is, you can add without taking away quite easily if the will is there.

But it's redundant, as Rhodes has said he's leaving and he's going to be replaced.

For me, we've been making the wrong decisions. We need someone to start making the right calls in the most obvious situations and for Rupp and Rhodes (if still there) to fall in line.

There are too few leaders at the club as it is, in every single department and on every single level.

 

Rhodes to blame.

 

Charlton were bought early January, well before lockdown.

Buying a football club is not like buying ASDA. ASDA makes money and most Football clubs outside of the PL don't.

What is defeatist about saying no one will buy the club until the wider football scene is clearer.

Would you buy the club today if you could despite no fans and no income and no prospect of that for at least this season and maybe into next?

 

how can you back that statement up without knowing/working with these people in ‘every single department’?

The whole fabric of an organisation starts from the top down, this is our big failing, not creating the right mentality and values and behaviours and being blasé and unprofessional. Right now the club should be bigging the fans up but they have nothing to say about us.

 

Oh. I see.

So if we have a fantastic owner, Clayton is suddenly a good player?

He must be because he'd have the right attitude etc.

I think you're trying to oversimplify because it's easier to blame one, perhaps two people.

Sounds like it, anyway.

No, sir, we need leaders at every level.

 

Yes, a bit, thank you @Fordy117

 

Rupp

 

The guy has been with us off and on through 20 years of decline. Sick of him and his naff deals

 

And I think you are the one over simplifying it if you are using that analogy, we all know Clayton is shite. I was asking how you know we don’t have leaders at to quote ‘every single department’?

of course we need leaders, the main lack of leadership is at the top.

 

I honestly don't know what you're disagreeing with.

Rupp can stay if he appoints a CEO to run the club with on pitch success in mind. Rhodes could stay to deal with off the field details.

What's your disagreement with?

 

Rhodes seems to conveniently forget that he was half of the management structure that consistently reassured fans that they were 'merely custodians' and that 'they'd only ever sell the club to people with the club's best interests at heart, who could also take the club further than they had'.

Now this is obviously crystal clear with 20/20 hindsight. But was it wise to sell to one person with no interest in football and his partner who thought he was Ferguson/Wenger/Pep/Klopp combined, but had delusions of grandeur and no previous experience of running a professional football club?

I'd wager that was a huge gamble he took with the club's future. In his time at the helm, he's only made 1 appointment, in Parkinson, that has been anything like a success. I don't want to be too harsh, because he obviously cares about the club and he's probably had many a sleepless night trying to keep the club afloat. I think even he'll accept that the club needs new blood and fresh ideas.


From what I understand, JR/ML only ever set the manager a budget and left the footballing side of the business to who's ever in the managerial hot seat. I'd like to see the new CEO formulate a plan with some longevity built in. Rather than just continuously sacking and appointing managers and the squad barely having any continuity from one manager to the next. There's local decent amateur teams with more of an idea of where they want to go and how they hope to get there than City.

That's why I desperately hope the new CEO has some experience and previous success in the role. A internal promotion will stink of an easy and cheap continuation of what we've already seen. The club's crying out for some fresh hope and ambition. For too long, we've been saddled with short term-ism and that'll do. I honestly fear for the club's very future if we don't see some major changes and quickly.

Ultimately, Rupp should be looking to offload the club. He's overseen, in real terms, a devaluation of the club by two whole divisions (approaching promotion from League One when he arrived to approaching the bottom of League Two at the moment). So he can't hope to even break even on the amount he purchased the club for. It's been a disaster since they took control, from trusting Rahic in the first place to relegation and the present situation.

 

Rhodes and macall should walk away rhodes brought in macall just to sale the season ticket's macall is a rubbish manger can not get the results

 

In the real world a CEO would set out his vision for a business, together with “smart” objectives, then ensure his team embraced the plan and were all pulling in the same direction. CEOs tend to be charismatic and have a real gravitas about them, larger than life characters and ideas people.
Now can we get real, A company the size of City shouldn’t need a CEO. City just like most lower league clubs are small fry and top heavy.
The owner should be the MD (or if you want to be poncy the CEO). He should set the vision and the long/ medium term plan then drive this through his team. For what it’s worth and what I know about him I’d have Rhodes as my F.D or CFO all day long. He’s a numbers man and does a pretty good job, but he’s no visionary.
His partnership with ML worked brilliantly. A larger than life character who saw everything in broad strokes working with a detailed completer finisher.
I think it’s pretty unfair therefore to blame Rhodes, he’s a square peg in a round hole,
McCall, it really upsets me to say it as I adore the bloke, isn’t a great manager, he appears to be a good motivator but wants to be everyone’s
Mate. He could change this by surrounding himself with people who are better than him in specialist areas say a nutritionist, specialist coaches including a conditioning and fitness coach.
To me the real blocker is Rupp but as said by others he can’t sell if no one wants to buy.
I think we’re in for a long hard season.

 

Macall? McCall. I agree wit ya Zubes.

 

So Rhodes recruits to use your own words someone who ‘isn’t a great manager’ but you think it’s ‘pretty unfair’ to blame him and want to blame McCall and Rupp who is the guy Rhodes recruits and the guy Rhodes sold us to? Glad we cleared that one up.

 

100% blame Rupp, just don’t see how we get rid, I Can’t see anyone turning up soon with the finances needed to pay him off....
On reflection I waffled a bit on my last post, sorry if it wasn’t clear, too much Sunday afternoon drinking!!

 

Mate don’t let Rhodes off the hook , he might have been doing what he thought was the right decision with good intentions but he has played a big part in creating this cluster fk. At least Rupp as much as I dislike him is keeping us afloat, Rupp has been surrounded by charlatans.

 

I’m not looking to start a Rhodes fan club, he’s made lots of mistakes over the years, his spat with Gibb nearly put the club out of business. He has however come back to try and unravel the mess caused when he brokered a deal to sell the club. I doubt (but don’t know) if he’s getting paid much for doing an interim role and he is 100% NOT a CEO. He’s a bean counter, we did have a pretty good if sometimes embarrassing CEO, went by the name of Mark Lawn, he appears to be bullet proof, sailed off into the distance but still more popular than Rhodes who is at least trying to make amends for their disastrous Joint decision to sell to Rupp. BTW I’d love Rupp to prove me wrong and get involved.

 

TBH Rupp deserves some credit for continuing to keep the club afloat. Sure, he's made some disastrous decisions - number one, being conned into investing in City by an egomaniac charlatan when he's not even particularly a football fan - his motor sports passions are well known to all. But he's been fair and decent in not pulling the plug on us. I would bet Rupp is even more desperate than we all are to find a new buyer. I'll say it again - David Baldwin and James Mason are both supremely well connected with financial contacts to set up a consortium to buy Rupp out. They'd give us some gas.

 

Is she our new potential owner