COVID-19

Lets see what the next 2 weeks brings in Bradford, because if there are places primed to blow then it's inner city Bradford + BD3 & BD9.

Not for me , they can go, average UK life expactancy is 81, only a very small % past that have a good quality of life. Do people want/expect to live forever? Never mind live well. Past 80 & you've had a good run.

I would hope that after all this, that the NHS stops keeping people alive and all this sanctity of life bollocks is consigned to history and we just let people go when it is their time. Even better, help some on their way, those who previously requested that help. Nobody wants to die after months in a hospital bed or hooked up to tubes 24/7. How much money & pain would society save if we could just turn latter stage alzheimer sufferers off?

MIL's cancer treatment has stopped, just like that, I understand it as she is 80 but it's stopped or being postponed for much younger patients too at the mo, to possibly save elderly Cov-19 patients? This this is not right.

 

On the other hand we are lucky it didnt start in Russia, they'd still be denying it, never mind sharing data..

 

Good point.

 

You are still the biggest clown on here I see.

You say that the NHS should stop keeping people alive, but isnt that what they were doing with your poor mother-in-law, by treating her awful cancer?

What gives you the right to play god and say that over 80's have had a good innings and they can go?

 

Thank you Idle, comforting to know you are mod supported in your choice of words.

Hospitals are full of people who will have no quality of life ever again, they are a huge drain on the NHS's resources, resouces that could better be spent on people who may, if they could get treatment in time, have a long & fulfilling life in front of them.

 

If the law will not allow people with debilitating conditions to take there own lives I would not force Doctors etc to play God and make the decisions to take peoples lives,
They take the Hippocratic oath that is all about keeping people alive a very slippery slop mate, my mother never wanted to be resuscitated and signed a form to say as much when her time came.

 

I agree with all that, and is why I made a comment in my post, conveniently ignored by dunderhead. If I got ill and there was just one ICU bed left and a younger person needed it, that'd be fine by me.

 

Mum mum is 83 and fit as a fiddle, she is lucky, many are not, my dad was dead 2 years before he went much younger. So Keep your one size fits all nonsense to yourself.

 

A bit of good news

 

And equally good news here,
https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/ventilator-challenge-uk-to-start-production-in-covid-19-fight?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#aoh=15855690462319&referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s&share=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/ventilator-challenge-uk-to-start-production-in-covid-19-fight
This new design is not as invasive I believe with the present ventilator they have to insert a tube into the airway in your throat. and is an upgrade on the present NHS ventilators.

 

I am glad your mum is still very fit and healthy at 83.

My dad is 91 and has never ailed anything in his life that required hospital treatment.

So, are you saying once we get over this crisis, and should your mum or my dad require hospital treatment, they should be declined as they have had a good innings?, because that what your post implied

 

This new machine was designed in only a week, amazing what can be achieved when money and science combine.

Now imagine all the countries in the world halved their defence/military budgets and put it into medical and technological sciences, with scientists around the world collaborating instead of competing, things like this and maybe even terminal illness could become a thing of the past. Sadly it’d never happen.

 

To quote Megadeth:

Peace sells, buts whos buying?.

 

Plus these machines could save countless poor people. To be blunt Governments couldn’t care less about saving most people’s lives, especially when a shiny new drone can wipe out some Middle Eastern outpost instead.

 

Countries coming together and pooling resources for a common good?

Imagine that.

 

Will never happen and has never happened. All about the dollar signs. You don't think Dyson has been sniffing round designing ventilators out of the goodness of his heart. Good for business. Its one of the things that amuses me about people's perception of the NHS, this 'wonderful' free for all service. Behind that front line of pressurised A + Es it's just like any other business. GPs surgeries, dentists, ambulance services to name but a few. If youre lucky enough to be in on this gravy train, maybe you own a surgery here or there then I envy you.

 

Once this virus is sorted the world needs to ask some serious questions from the Chinese government.