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Sack Collins now before it's too late. Sack him!

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Fordy117, Aug 18, 2018.

  1. Bronco

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    Very much like yourself.
    With regards his preseason comment maybe he should have not opened his mouth, hope as Edin hes learning.
    With regards negative that has only been the sitution since these clowns took over and only started during the second season under their regine, very much classed as a happy clapper and supporter of them and previous owners, second only to @ParkBantam.
     
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  2. Bronco

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    So just your opinion then @Captain Grumpy@Captain Grumpy generally.
    Can you tell us why "your fairly sure Parky was leaving" he had 2 years of a contract that our past owners had given him, and they certainly weren't in a rush to get him out of the club.
     
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  3. Fordy117

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    Miller went because the board realised they've made a mistake.

    The board knew that Miller was going to be player manager when they hired him as a player manager.

    Learn quickly from your mistakes.

    Ha yeah Collins would still play 1 upfront even if we had 10 forwards.
     
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  4. abbomf

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    At Millwall it certainly felt like the end of his reign, for the fans and him, what more could he do with that team? He made a brave and subsequently good career move and with the flux at City I thought (without proof) that he was going.
     
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    It felt like the right time for him to go although it would have been interesting to see how he would have got on with Rahic. I don't think you would have seen Rahic leaning over the wall talking to Parkinson mid game like he was with Collins and Drury.
     
  6. Bronco

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    Yes you are correct, I do believe as fans we can influence them up to a point, unfortunatly that might mean boycotting games, not purchasing merchandice ETC, let's hope it never gets to that situation ( I have never experiance a situation like that in all my time of watching Bradford City) we are frustrated with our start more so the perforances we all hope Collins and Co can turn it around but if they continue to go down this route without improvement I can see fans calling them out.
     
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  7. Gildy Boy

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    The writing was on the wall through pre-season too. If you look at the results since Collins was appointed we have played 9, won 2 lost seven, including a 2-7 defeat at Horrorgate!!, which I paid good money to see, and will take a long time to recover from. The only wins, apart from a behind closed doors game against the Wendies, which does't really count when you look at the kids they had playing, our kids against BPA' kids, and a streaky performance against the Shrews. You know my opinion, Mikey is out of his depth, which, he'll know himself, and needs putting out of his misery. Don't like anyone losing their job, but he's already had his ten game probation.
    I am definately going tomorrow, and Saturday, and just want to see 'proper' performances. If we dont win, thats OK as long as we lose playing quick, aggresive, attacking football, and 'bust a gut' for the shirt. Not holding my breath though!!
     
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    I don't actually care if we only get two Draws, Fordy ...........
    More important for me is a stop to the rot, and genuine indications of vastly improved performances.
     
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    What so you would be happy with 5 points from 15. Dropping 10 points this early into the season?
     
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    At least we'd have only lost two, and be two points better off than we are currently. ;)
     
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    2 comfortable wins scoring a few goals is the only way collins should still be in a job this time next week.
     
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    Well City are certainly shipping goals at the moment.
     
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    So say we get two draws. Dropping 10 points.

    You still would be happy with Collins? More than likely still playing 1 up top as well and stood there clueless.

    Mate, comes a time when tough decisions have to be made. Waiting for the change can be too long.

    We all know now that Collins isn't the right man. Most knew when he was appointed.

    If we're to give him 2 games he has to win them both easily or you in impressed by Edin telling what to do during a match?
     
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    Parky would have twatted him for sure, then dusted down his V-neck, played a bit with the zipper on his coat and got ready to "go again". Parkin would have stood by, chewing furiously, and looking hard just in case Edin slipped an under the belt one in.
     
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    Oh, I see ...........
    THAT scenario has never happened with City before ? :)
     
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    My worry was always whether the trio of Collins, Drury & Abbott were capable in a matchday scenario. They might be the best coaches Monday to Friday but what can they do to make an impact during the 90mins. Obviously the players aren't likely to say otherwise but this is proving to be the case with positive messages coming out regarding the work on the training pitch, but its yet to bring much result on a matchday when it matters.

    That said, it still feels early to be demanding change and I don't think Edin is near considering it yet. He would look foolish after the six week hunt to fire him less than four weeks into the season. I'd also say that Collins has to be given the time to prove he can cope. We can see the frustrations and limitations with the setup so surely he and Drury/Abbott can as well, what does he/they have in him to rectify it.

    It feels ridiculous to consider the next two home games as vital but I think they are. Over previous years we've had early season home games that have arguably set the tone, a spirited win over Fleetwood in the history makers season, the late win against Port Vale in the first play off season, the thrilling win against Coventry in the second play off season - what have this lot got in them to set the tone? If they can't win over the crowd against Burton & Wycombe then I fear it could be lasting damage for the coaching staff and players.
     
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    Good to see you've diversified and switched a bit of your venom to Mikey Boy. The Edin obsession was a bit unhealthy.

    Seriously, the chances are this is a massive mistake, but you can't sack someone after three league games when you've won one of them. Minimum he has to do is start putting the feelers out now, leave Collins in charge, and sack him next Monday is we don't pick up at least four points. That way he could at least be ready for the double header at Fleetwood & Blackpool with a manager in place (if the beardy boys go then Abbo has to go with them).

    I hated his football, but we could do worse given the signings made, than go back cap in hand to Grayson and offer him a one year deal with a promise that he can make signings before the window shuts. The one thing everyone is right about, we need a manager rather than a head coach.
     
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    Almost my point of view, U S G, overall. (I wouldn't want SG back !!)
    Sacking Collins this morning (for example) would have little bearing on the outcome of our next two results, as the 'other two' would still be here - making the same choices and selections. As it's a coaching 'team' - If one goes ............ They all go, simple.
     
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    We know only too well from last season how difficult it can be to change a losing mentality to a winning one. Had we been unlucky in a couple of games so far, we could believe we're on the right tracks, but if players still don't understand their roles after 4 games then your either speaking in Chinese or over complicating what is a simple game. Im with @Fordy117@Fordy117 on this one, as harsh as it might be, the longer the rot sets in the harder it'll be to get out. All three would need to go for me, as any new man will bring his own team in and that could be costly.
     
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    I know the performances are not to standard and results are waining but a dismissal at this stage is very unlikely IMO and not justified yet.
     

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