Summer 2023 Transfer Rumours

Even if it is the people who come in will probably run it the same way just as the majority of clubs are run.
Here is an idea get in touch of one of these and tell them what a great opportunity is available to the
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2022/09/27/the-richest-sports-team-owners-on-the-2022-forbes-400/

 

I come to the conclusion that Rupp values the club as a top end League 1 side - at the price he paid for it....

 

Why not, surely it cant be anything to do with not owning the stadium or training facilities, there have been take overs where clubs were in similar situations it hasn't deterred the new buyers, or deterred Rupp & Rahic, being a self sustaining club that would be a very good reason to buy Stephan out.

 

Not sure even with little competition in the area they could generate 20,000 plus for home games week on week which would be required if they made the Championship unless the owners were happy to bail them out season on season and run up debt as we see so many other clubs chasing the promised land.

That's hardly something to boast about.

 

With respect that’s such silly response. Just because you don’t know it doesn’t mean there isn’t people speaking to the club or it’s representatives.

In my opinion and I’ve read a lot of your messages you rather enjoy the downbeat risk adverse nature of the club. Fine that’s your prerogative, guarantee you this approach will never get us any further than league 1 and even then i think it’s a stretch.

You maybe comfortable with that, let me tell you there are lots of fans who are not and one day someone will see the potential in the club am sure of it. I for one can’t wait to see the back to this regime.

 

His name is Stefan. Not Stephan

 

Unfortunately, there is only potential in the club if someone is prepared to spend tens of millions.

Mr Rupp's price for the club might be holding back some investors. But frankly, if an 'investor' is worrying about paying a couple of million over the odds for Bradford City, then they probably can't afford to push the club beyond mid league one. The aggregate financial losses being incurred at the championship level are eye watering. We've got a great fanbase, but that isn't going to sustain championship football.

For now, let's hope that Mark Hughes can get it right this season. He's definitely being supported to get us out of league two.

 

Luton, Bournemouth, Swansea, Burnley, Brentford, Blackpool, Wigan and so on...........they didn't need 20,000 fans.

There is a weird obsession with attendances among our fan base. It means very little...

 

Im not happy at the lack of progress we have made since Rupp bought the club. Im not happy at the fact that we went from the outskirts of the championship to League 2 within the space of a few years. Im not happy at the fact that he was part of the ownership that forced the most successful manager in recent history of our club out of the door, an im definitely not happy at being stuck in this shit league for another year

that being said....he has tried to make amends an attempted to right his wrongs. He could of hired another yes man instead of Hughes 18 months ago. He could of increased season ticket prices which would of fecked up our attendances. He could of allowed Rahic to carry on running the club. And he could of washed his hands of this club an sold it to those twats at Crawley when they came knocking. Instead he has taken measures into his own hands, gotten rid of Rahic, stopped the Rot, an for the second season in a row, we have a competitive budget, which included retaining last years top scorer an turning down 2 bids for Harry Lewis. Something I doubt Mark Lawn would of done.

I aint saying that Rupp is a good owner, but hes a farcry from someone who has constantly neglected the club under his reign. If his intention is to get us back to League 1 an to then sell us onto someone who can pay what he paid for the club many years ago then fair play to him, I hope it happens an we can move on.

 

I agree with the majority of this post. Yes he has made a number of mistakes that have had a major impact on our club.. His biggest mistake was Rahic, and his lack of due diligence. However, slowly but surely he is learning how football business in this country pans out. Sparks and Rupp are learning on the job. I think off the field we are doing very well. We just need to get ourselves out of this league. It looks like Rupp+Sparks+Hughes are all singing from the same hymn sheet.

 

Sold a yarn by the previous owner Dave?

 

And he’s dreaming , because the club now know of his attitude. If the manager goes someone is always kept on for continuity, if Young isn’t careful he will get a bad name in the Division and one lower.

 

We don’t own our ground or training ground - that’s why nobody wants to invest in us or buy us at Rupps asking price.
We’re a league two side with nothing more than a football league share and few players registrations to our name. There is little chance of the potential that the club clearly has being recognised unless we own more or at the very least move up a league again.

 

But Wagmi did want to buy at Rupps asking price...

 

You say Stefan, he says Stephan. Lets call the whole thing off.

 

Their progress since has shown them to be gullible as far as this market is concerned.

 

I'd be more worried if we did own the ground and people were queuing up to buy us because of that. We've done this a million times.

The value in the club is the name, the support base (customer goodwill), the history, the back story and the FL golden share and if the price were £5million it would be a steal for an owner who genuinely wanted a club that had the potential to get into the PL with it's support base and catchment area primed and ready to grow.

Imagine what we could do if we had the capacity and tapped in strongly to the Asian community.

There is zero or at least very limited long term potential in the likes of Salford, Stockport & Wrexham -a flirt with the Championship at very best. As Winkleman has found at MK Dons, you can only really grow a club organically if the locals are open to that. Their glass ceiling is way below ours, and owing their ground wont change that at all.

Our potential is more along the size of Sheffield United and their ground is owned by their owner not the club. There aren't that many football clubs where the ground is actually owned by the same Ltd Company as the Football club. It's a red herring is ground ownership.

As I've said before, for Bradford City Football Club to own the ground would create a much bigger liability on the balance sheet than paying rent. It would create a huge commercial debt, at double figure interest rates, therefore the alternative is for Rupp to buy it from his own funds, and if he did, we would end up paying rent to him.

 

In terms of a financial and investible model, then it means a lot. In terms of ensuring success on the pitch, it means absolutely nothing.

 

Look I would love for big money to come into the club and transform it. But 65 years of experience says yes there will be people out there who if they could afford would like to own the club. But and this is the point it’s highly likely that the club would be run on the same lines as at present. That being the case we are betting sticking with the devil we know. Rupp has shown he will listen to offers the WAGMI bid was at least taken seriously. If someone came along or a consortium who had money they are prepared to lose I’m sure he would listen.

 

Apart from Burnley & Blackpool (which was a very different era League One as it was then known) the clubs you have quoted have spent more time out of the top 2 tiers than in it, they have all been lower league clubs most of their time in the ELF, and even as Premier League clubs they would be fighting the drop every season so without decent fan backing they will need a very rich owner (as I posted) who is happy to throw money at the project to try and make them competitive in both the Championship or the Premiership.

If the home attendance meant so little why are club building new grounds or redeveloping their grounds to increased crowd capacity, of course Old Trafford holding 70,000 plus is a massive advantage on the likes of Burnley, Wigan, Bournemouth, Brentford and Swansea, Arsene Wenger actually making that comment about Arsenal not being competitive with crowds that Highbury held.