Covid & Covid Passports - Rules & Logistics for City matches?

just applied for mine, it took five mins. I believe in being part of society and its benefits, thus i want to protect my fellow supporter. What do we want, lockdown again, no thank you.

 

On the winter plan linked in the article they state their reasons for the passports. I have pasted it here just for ease.

Mandatory Vaccine-only COVID-status Certification
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Under Plan B, the Government expects that mandatory vaccine-only certification would be introduced for visitors to the following venues:

• All nightclubs;
• Indoor, crowded settings with 500 or more attendees where those attendees are likely to be in close proximity to people from other households, such as music venues or large receptions;
• Outdoor, crowded settings with 4,000 or more attendees where those attendees are likely to be in close proximity to people from other households, such as outdoor festivals; and
• Any settings with 10,000 or more attendees, such as large sports and music stadia.
• There are some settings that will be exempt from requirements to use the NHS COVID Pass, including communal worship, wedding ceremonies, funerals and other commemorative events, protests and mass participation sporting events.

Supporting evidence
The COVID-Status Certification Review concluded that there would be a public health benefit from certification. Certification of immunity for certain uses has the potential to enable access to a wide range of activities in ways that could reduce transmission of the virus.
There is good evidence to suggest certification will have a beneficial impact on infection rates. Vaccines reduce the likelihood of someone becoming infected, and, therefore, vaccine certification reduces the risk of onward transmission if an infected person does enter a venue. Vaccination also reduces the chances of someone who is infected being hospitalised or dying.
PHE analysis of the Events Research Programme found that, while proof of full vaccination or a negative LFD test would not completely eliminate the possibility of an infectious individual attending an event, it should reduce the likelihood of someone transmitting highly infectious amounts of virus to a large number of individuals attending the event. The study concluded that promoting attendance by fully-vaccinated individuals at events will be important to mitigate risks.45
For venues, certification could allow settings that have experienced long periods of closure to remain open, compared to more stringent measures which may severely reduce capacity or cause them to close entirely.

So in short, doing this is better than nothing to reduce spread of covid.
Also thought @bantamdave41 should have a read too.

 

This is why like I said before I went DD this season because I will just cancel it and send back my ST. No fan signed a contract to this so can't be held accountable if the DD is cancelled. Would imagine others did the same and the club will end up losing money.

 

so you aren't wanting to provide negative tests then? if not as a question for you, if you went into shop and they refused to serve you for not wearing any shoes would you apologise and put some on?

 

From the text i pasted from the governments winter plan.

There is good evidence to suggest certification will have a beneficial impact on infection rates. Vaccines reduce the likelihood of someone becoming infected, and, therefore, vaccine certification reduces the risk of onward transmission if an infected person does enter a venue. Vaccination also reduces the chances of someone who is infected being hospitalised or dying.
PHE analysis of the Events Research Programme found that, while proof of full vaccination or a negative LFD test would not completely eliminate the possibility of an infectious individual attending an event, it should reduce the likelihood of someone transmitting highly infectious amounts of virus to a large number of individuals attending the event. The study concluded that promoting attendance by fully-vaccinated individuals at events will be important to mitigate risks.45
For venues, certification could allow settings that have experienced long periods of closure to remain open, compared to more stringent measures which may severely reduce capacity or cause them to close entirely.

 

I get that you don't agree with the idea of a Covid passport, but I don't understand why your beef about it is with the club rather than the government.

 

He’s probably of the sort who think its all a scheme, the club in cahoots with the government. A great resetter if you will.

 

Believe me I have

 

This should apply to players and staff then.

It looks highly likely these restrictions will be applied in the coming week or so to me.

 

Fully agree Steve, the club are going to take a right hit, it must be coming up else Sparky wouldent have come out with this statement, standby for the s***e to hit the fans

 

And if the Club had announced today that you need a pass for Saturday what would you be saying then? This is a heads up.

 

Agree with a lot of that Ricky but I really don't get the hysteria on here. Getting a Pass is easy, I got mine and my wife's in days, hard copy and on my phone. Last month we went to Cyprus where you are liable to have to produce your pass to get in restaurants and shops, fines for you and property operator if you don't and can't produce, 8k Euros. Equally in the peak a few months ago there was a 9.00 pm curfew with 300 Euro fine and requirement to text Police with a reason if you were not going to be home by the deadline.
Wales is introducing Covid pass requirements and it's coming over the UK as winter approaches, yet all we get on here is bleating about refunds on tickets, get jabbed for goodness sake.

 

Roger I totally understand the clubs stance on the matter as they have little control over it and having followed city since 79 I bleed claret and amber but the fact remains this is more than just about a vaccine and passport and we seem to walking right back towards 1930/40 Germany where you will have to show documents everywhere you go.


If I can't go to see the club play why shouldn't I stop my DD I didn't sign a contract saying I would need to show a passport to get anywhere. If that was the case I wouldn't have bought a ST in the first place.

Would also be interesting to see if all staff and players at all clubs now have to be vaccinated because I know many clubs players/staff aren't.

 

I’m sure someone on here said they had read the details of the scheme and staff are not covered by it

 

How will this 10000 capacity work. What if a club averages say 8 or 9 thousand but the capacity of their ground is over 10000, surely the covid passport should apply to them as well as 10000 may turn up one particular match. I would think the restrictions would apply to any club with a capacity of 10000 which is most clubs. Or do they make each match all ticket?

 

I used to bleed claret and amber, had the vaccine and now my blood is red.

It's witchcraft I tell ya.

 

I think those that don’t want to get jabbed(and it’s up to bloody them) should get a full refund and would be fully entitled too one and you know it.

 

they can get a pass to show that fact and are then allowed in, alternatively they could take a lateral flow

 

I honestly don’t think they will be legally entitled as the change is a change in law and it is the customer deciding not to comply with the new entry requirements

 

I'm reading this differently, I read it as in grounds with over 10,000 people attending, they'll need to show some form of Covid ID or a negative test to gain entry. Nothing about grounds being limited to 10,000 fans? It just means to keep with regulations, we'd be spending £3K+ on matchdays to add more stewards to do the safety checks before going to the turnstiles. Everyone will still be able to go to games, Man United will still be able to have 70,000 fans at home, it's just all these clubs will have increased costs to hire more people to check the details of each fan before entry. That's the "financial hit" Sparks is worrying about in the paper today. One of the weirdest things about the proposal is this only affects home fans, away fans wont need to show any form of Covid ID or test to enter a ground.

This has been implemented in Wales from yesterday, with crowds over 4,000 having to show a negative test or Covid ID. Says nothing on any welsh team page i've checked about capacity changes.

For anyone wondering about refunds, there is nothing in the T&Cs thats new in relation to Covid but this will be fans choosing not to attend, rather than attendance being stopped for an unforeseen circumstance. The only term for it is below.

4.2. In the event of any of the Match(es) has, for any reason, to be played out of view of the public or you not be granted access due to capacity restrictions we will look to arrange an alternative method to watch the game (ie IFollow). Failing this, you will be entitled to receive a pro-rata refund on account for the value of that particular match. Any refunds onto account will be allocated prior to the next seasons tickets going on sale. The Club will have no further liability whatsoever, including (but not limited to) any indirect or consequential loss or damage, loss of enjoyment or travel/accommodation costs.

So you wouldn't get a full refund and you wouldn't get your money until next years tickets go on sale.