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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lancaster Bantam, May 1, 2021.

  1. Kevin1954

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    My thoughts exactly
     
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    Ought to have saved a few quid.
    Depends on the nee manager but wouldn’t be surprised to see Evans and O’Donnell possibly moved on
     
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  3. Kevin1954

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    I certainly don’t see Woods where you do...not on this seasons ( gone) showing, always played the backward option and when rarely playing forward , shanked into touch , given to the oppo, or into no mans land. Very poor season imho.
     
  4. Kevin1954

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    EVANS!
     
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    Evans might stay depending on the manager. Kenny Jackett loved him and his 60 day clause from his Pompey sacking expires tomorrow, with all the vacancies in L1&2 he wont be out of work for long so hopefully we can offer him out unless Jackett comes here. If it's Keith Hill, i'm pretty sure he wanted him when he was at Bolton? Might be wrong.

    Don't mind if Hornby signs on, but i'd have wanted an upgrade over either keeper really. I'd imagine if Hornby signs his extension, we look to offer out ROD? Still think we want to freshen up the options in goal.
     
  6. Park bantam

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    I don’t think he has quite kicked on to his full potential however I still think we will struggle to find better
     
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    A lot of it will be from not having to pay for AOC and Connor Wood anymore
     
  8. Park bantam

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    I doubt Wood was among our top earners
     
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  9. SimonW

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    There are 2 things though. One the retained list isn't something that was just put together. As you see with the inclusion of players who are offered contracts but haven't yet accepted there may have been some who even yesterday wouldn't have been on the released list as the contracts were still waiting for the player to decide but the decisions would have been made at least a month ago. PL clubs who don't even need to announce theirs until the end of June have already told out of contract senior and youth players who can go, offered contracts to those they want to keep or triggered extensions. Just look at Man Utd, Harvey Neville was told he can go and has already signed for Inter Miami, Max Taylor has been talking about leaving United and Lee Grant has been told his services won't be needed (but has been offered a coaching role)

    And 2nd of all do you think Adam's is going to risk breaching the terms of his contract or City are willing to risk sanction for having him breach the contract. I mentioned elsewhere that when Moyes took over at United, United offered Everton millions to cancel the contract the day after the final game of the season so Moyes could be involved in making more decisions on players but they refused so he wasn't able to be involved for about 6/7 weeks. Unless the deal with Adams is signed by all parties and there has been an agreement in there between the clubs that he is allowed to be involved right now which would involve additional cash then I just don't see. Even more so when it doesn't actually sound like anything has been agreed formally and that it largely hinges on if Morecombe fail to get through the playoffs. Infact if it hinges on Morecombe not going up does it even make sense for city to take his input into account? Imagine he insisted they keep some of the higher earners and then he doesn't come leaving City on the hook for the wages.

    Actually, when you look at what T&S were saying the morning of the day they got removed from their roles I actually wonder if the new unspecified jobs they have been offered are actually in that rough realm of DoF? With the amount of manager turnover you have had having someone shaping the makeup of the squad and then getting a manager that can fit into that rather than a manager who would want to fully reshape it would make sense and if they want to maybe focus more on youth which from a financial and potential performance sense would make sense as buying older established players who are largely on the decline and have no resale value hasn't really worked well they might be pretty well suited for
     
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  10. WilsdenBantam

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    We are starting again because we ended 15th in league 2, let it sink in 15th. Imagine the uproar had we kept the majority of those failures. Time for fans to stop accepting mediocrity to damn right failure because until fans stop accepting it it’s hard to blame the club when they do, just a shame some are still in contract who should also be on their way.
     
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    Wow. I'm really struggling to see FCD as a CB. Haven't even seen Foulds so don't know about him
     
  12. SimonW

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    He was nowhere near what Riley was on when you signed him. I suspect he may have had a pay rise since then but certainly when he was signed he was a fair bit down your wage bill
     
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  13. Idlebantam

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    Spot on Wilsden
     
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    Hope its a L2 club, six points in the bag if so. He's no Rory McArdle for sure
     
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    Why ? He came from a PL under 23 so will have taken a big pay cut even then and we were L1 at the time. I'd be surprised if he wasnt on similar to AOC. Think we might also move Evans & O'Donnell on
     
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    Keeeeeeeev.

    You promised you'd stop with the HornSby stuff.
     
  17. ahar964

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    yeah - I bet Salford thought they had 3 points in the bag a couple of weeks ago but for 2 great blocks and an unbelievable goal line clearance from him. I would have kept him but maybe it will work out well for club and player
     
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    It's just a shame that we couldn't off load the other O'Connor as a pair.
     
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    Thanks Edin.
     
  20. SimonW

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    From the statement when Turnball was appointed I'm not sure that's his job. It sounds much more like that role Moyes likes introducing at clubs that is focused on 'Infrastructure' rather than 'playing personnel'. The point being that you get the structure of the scouting and data analysis correct and ensure they have the best resources that are viable within the budget so when the person making decisions on playing personnel needs a player they are best positioned to aid them
     
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