COVID-19

Can't worry about that. It's never going to get down to zero.

 

isnt the false positive rate the percentage of the positive test that are actually negative. So if 5000 positives are registered the. 50 would be negative

 

In truth I don't know. I quoted it pretty much how it was explained on the radio. I think I repeated their terminology but hopefully you get the idea. Having said that it seems at the moment you can make up just about any theory you want and still wheel out a scientist to endorse it

 

Plus wouldn’t the number of false negatives balance it out?

 

I have no idea. Sounds feasible. Or maybe something in the process brings out more false positives than negatives. Someone was on about it again this morning. I wasn't listening properly buy I think he said there was a difference in the percentage depending on whether the testing was looking to see if someone had covid or was trying to show that they didn't. Wish I'd listened now because that sounds b#ll#cks when I read it back!

 

There is a difference in the number of false positives as a percentage of the total number of positives depending if it is a random sample or people going to be tested because they have symptoms

 

Might sound harsh but believe it or not people do actually die, it's part of life. It will be interesting to see when they decide to raise the lockdown gates because this virus ain't ever going away.

 

100%. I don't view it as harsh either, it's just the reality.

There was another scientist on Sky News this morning who was talking about future lockdowns even after the rollout had been completed. This needs to be a strong no.

I'm 40, I've got some risk to this disease obviously but I haven't been going through this lockdown to protect me, I've been doing it to protect people who are 'more vulnerable' - once those people are protected as far as they can possibly be by a vaccine I expect my life back. All this talk of long covid, infection rates and new variants isn't washing. It either works and we stop the restrictions, or it doesn't and we all just have to live with it.

The problem at the minute is that by people begging for heavier restrictions we now have a situation where it is actually illegal to meet with other people and we have absolutely no control over when that restriction comes to an end.

 

Completely agree, there comes a time where the lockdown has more serious implications than the problem you are locking down to fight. And that point is nearly here. But you can exactly whats gonna happen, the scaremongering has led to a point where Covid is literally life and death where that isn't the truth at all. I'm old enough to remember aids and HIV and the days when if you got it it was thought as a death sentence. Its still around today but we have learned to live with it and thats what has to happen with Covid because we can't go shitting ourselves as a nation every time a new 'variant' strain scare story is leaked to the public. But again that won't fit with the narrative of the main stream media.

 

Let's hope the rest of the richer countries around the world follow.

With the UK having ordered more than 400 million doses of various coronavirus vaccines, it's expected to have many left over once all adults have been offered jabs. And Prime Minister Boris Johnson will pledge to donate a majority of that surplus to poorer countries in a speech to fellow leaders of rich nations in the G7 later.

 

Evidence is starting to emerge suggesting that vaccination does reduce transmission. If that's the case then there's your answer.
It also seems to me that if we're asking teachers to sit in classrooms for several hours a day with loads of unmasked kids then we have a duty to do what we can to avoid them getting seriously ill, by vaccinating them.

 

And the same argument could be put for shop workers spending hours serving people, many unmasked,

 

I do agree with you but last night I needed to pop into ASDA and although the vast majority were wearing masks some weren't, for me shoppers should not be allowed into the store without a mask.

 

During the last lifting of restrictions, I went into Asda is Keighley and followed a large family in. There was a girl on the door (Asda employee) with a box of masks and despite not one of this family wearing one, she just let them walk past and into the shop, no attempt made to stop them or even offer them a mask.

 

you soon recognise the regular refusers so stop bothering

 

I'd round them up with dawn raids and stick them in a cell for 48 hours. But only after applying gaffer tape to their mouths. On another occasion I pulled up in Asda carpark, realised I didnt have a mask and went home (before I knew they gave them out)

 

And manufacturing and transport workers.

The priority list seems logical based on the people who are most likely to get very sick or die. Seems fair to me. While the vaccines are limited I'm interested about who should be delayed getting their vaccines to allow teachers to get their earlier?

 

I’ve asked the same about teachers and shop workers and the arguments seem to go quiet as no one wants to say who they should push down the list

 

Think it is a bit harsh rounding everyone up that goes to ASDA.