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Brexit

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Park bantam, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Park bantam

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    And the OAPs
     
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  2. Bronco

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    Failure to communicate, opening words from this great Guns n' Roses song.
     
  3. Clity

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    You can make exceptions for any argument you choose. But with brexit it wasnt just one expert it was thousands.

    You know you are just clutching for straws.
     
  4. Clity

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    We are GREAT BRITAIN we are not someones bitch! in the EU we have power, we have infuence over 500million people. We have military bases in Germany and France cant do anything without our support. Look at Mali. We bloody rule the roost, we get 45% of FDI, we get a rebate on the £10bil, we dont have schengen, no euro here. We kick ass its so good as well as travel benefits.

    Soft brexit simply reduces us to nothingness. at least with a hard brexit we can boss around some smaller countries and get the resources we need to keep prices of goods down. But the bigger countries will boss us around and at the moment thats not as easy because we are leaders of the eu.

    i sometimes despair at the leave argument being contradictory. If we have no control when we deal with the likes of germany and france hence why we should leave. i.e. we have bad deal. then why would we get a better deal from much larger countries like USA and China? slight contradiction.
     
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  5. trevor

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    It is a fatal mistake to believe that might is always right, Look past the fog of those who have an interest in providing the public with there own evidence in the interest of serving their masters view like the international financiers who have and still are financing the remain campaign with millions of pounds to reverse the result or a new referendum
     
  6. Bronco

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    The EU will wonder what hit them, they had the option to not give us further extensions and they could have all been buddies with no agro from Farage and Co.
     
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  7. trevor

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    We have tried to reform the EU for twenty years and got nowhere, The EU and ourselves are controlled by the German and French who gang up to control the EU including ourselves, The £10 Billion last year was after the rebate and the money returned for EU projects in the UK we have no control over, The projected contribution by the UK is around £20 billion in five years along with a contribution to the proposed EU defence force, The EU is killing us by a thousand cuts and by the time the patient realises it will be to late
     
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  8. Clity

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    Please answer this...

    If we get bullied by germany and france now as members, when we have a similiar sized economy and a balance of power. What sort of bullying power do you think India, China, USA will have over us?

    If we cant out bully germany how is going it alone going to suddenly empower us?

    Its fascicle and you know it.

    You simply in my eyes cant accept that some rules we live by come from a parliament on mainland europe. Thats fine but the alternative is accepting rules from mumbai, washington and beijing. There cant be trade with anyone without shared rules can there?
     
  9. Berkshire-bantam

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    Us will always have power over us. The rest will want a part or our economy as much as the next person.

    Lets face it .. all your parliamentary candidate don't have a crystal ball, just like we don't..

    Let it rum ist course and see what happens .... I can guarantee it's not as bad as they believe
     
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  10. Clity

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    What do you do for a living? like what is your profession or trade?
     
  11. trevor

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    This is just rubbish, We are the 5th largest economic power in the world and a major political influence in the world that thankfully we kept out of the EU to run it independently and of course we are a major military power with nuclear capacity.
    The UK has never been pushed around economically and once it gains the freedom to make its own decisions will grow even more, This is the real fear of the EU that we begin to trade elsewhere as we forge new trade as they decline,
    The EU is on the brink of recession with some members already in it and the fear of losing its biggest customer is bringing fear to some members,
    It is a shame that some people in this country are so scared and so used to not having to take responsibility for one of the greatest countries in the world that EVERY major country and trading block want us to do deals and trade with them.
    The greatest attitude and trate of the UK nation is its ability to be independent and to fight for freedoms round the world despite the cost to us, That is why the world respects us, People like you would betray that with a wimpish give in to anyone who wants to control us, It is time some people in this country began to grow a pair
     
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    Whatever he does is non of your business and whatever it is it will be better than our disgraceful out of touch MPs who seem to go from University to MP without ever working in the real world and understanding real peoples problems
     
  13. Clity

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    Stfu mate its got nothing to do with you.
     
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    Trait*

    You have no clue how the world works. We couldnt even afford to build our own nuclear power plants so we had to get china to do it. Then we end up paying more in costs for electricity then than we do now. To pay back the chinese.

    We arent the big power we used to be. Study history, study politics, study economics, I have. I wouldnt tell you how to do your job so I suggest you listen to people who know the finer details.

    It doesnt matter anyway because brexit is dead and dangerous people like you can go back to claiming your pensions and moaning about foreigners.
     
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  15. Bronco

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    Your user name certainly suits you.

    Clity.......
     
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    Ive actually had a civil conversation with you @Bronco@Bronco but if you want to start the tit for tat then go ahead.

    I asked Berkshire Bantams profession so I could make a point that if I as a non expert in his profession made an arbitrary statement about belief in something despite evidence he would no doubt tell me im wrong.

    Its hardly personal info to say im a builder, im a hair dresser, im a banker is it?
     
  17. Bronco

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    Just remember who was the first to start saying I shouldnt be allowed a vote a rather obnoxiuos comment and telling other posters to shut the f**c up.
     
  18. Offcomedun

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    Cue stand to attention, salute the union jack and sing Land of Hope and Glory.

    Respects us? We're the laughing stock of the world at the moment. Have you been out of this country in the last three years? They all think we've taken leave of our senses. Only in this insular isle do people think that what we're doing is remotely sensible.
     
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    You really know nothing, The reason we cannot build our own power stations is because we have not the skill, Management and project management skills that we have lacked for over 40 years and never invested in, That is why we have had to buy them in paid up front by private investment but paid for eventually by the consumer. You mention lack of money but the money we send to the EU does not help provide the infrastructure the UK could afford if it did not spend Billions on the EU, Do not forget it is not only the £9billion Nett that we send we have to give them all the tariffs on imported goods from non EU countries amounting to around £16 Billion over the last four years and adding around 10% to the average UK food bill which would disappear if we left the EU, The charge for access to the free market, The percentage of VAT sent to the EU and the Tariffs we send to the EU would probably pay for a power station every year instead of the country being bled dry bit by bit.
     
  20. Clity

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    Complete baseless lies
     

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