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  1. Storck

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    the ones I have seen don’t use peer to peer
     
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  2. Storck

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    Cost for away games will be lower for those that usually travel to the games
     
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  3. Keefly Bantam

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    You need a girlfriend or a FWB asap.
     
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  4. WilsdenBantam

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    Not much, except this would be to save the club instead of donating for nothing you’d at least give people some sort of incentive. In 2000 we weren’t in trouble and were on the up, I brought fan shares up as an alternative to donating to save the club instead of metaphorically chucking money in a bucket, you get a piece of the club even if only symbolically. It’d get more interest than a simple donation imo.
     
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  5. Fordy117

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    This time is different to any time before. Global recession coming up.

    Families will be thinking of themselves.
     
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  6. Park bantam

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    City are independently talking about allowing all matches being shown on I follow because of our big fan base until fans can return. Yes there won’t be a massive uptake but enough to help with cash flow. People who buy one should be allowed to keep their seats. Otherwise when normality returns all seats should be freed up
     
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  7. Storck

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    They do because if they don’t have the capacity to cope then there is no point in even approaching Sky.

    I think we will see if Sky are going to be flexible by their approach to the restart of the PL.
     
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  8. How

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    They can show the games on a weekend when it’s internationals as per contract signed in summer of 2018 I think
     
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  9. WilsdenBantam

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    I’m not 100% sure on how fan ownership or part ownership works. However I’d be surprised if it works like that. Wimbledon and Portsmouth have both had it, I’d be shocked if every fan who donated for shares had to help pay the bills, most except for maybe the major share holders would be ceremonial and wouldn’t have to give an equivalent amount. I have shares in companies and don’t pay towards the running of them so why would fans at a football club? Also in Germany I believe clubs are part fan owned, do everyone of them? These are genuine questions as I don’t know, but I’d be shocked if some bloke from Buttershaw bought £500 worth of shares and was expected to contribute to things like players wages and other bills.
     
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  10. Rogered Tart

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    The whole idea of jumping from paying supporter who pays for the privilege of a seat on a Saturday/Tuesday night to a individual with a shareholding sounds wonderful in theory but in practice? I can only see one eventual outcome, that of my parents next door neighbour of over 30 years. He's a long standing Leeds fan and has/had shares in the club which, after many years and many owners are worthless. It wasn't many shares and wasn't a big sum of money and he knew when he bought them what the probable outcome would be.
    Thats not to say it couldn't be a workable alternative, clubs in other countries more so than here have done it. I just can't ever see it happening.
     
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  11. Bantamsteve

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    Cant disagree
    But that epitomizes the way the club has been run we need a plan as to how we are going to operate better than any other club in L2
     
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  12. WilsdenBantam

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    Don’t worry we’ve been treading water for years so maybe fan ownership is the best way forward :thumbup:

    In all seriousness though, I don’t think anybody on here suggesting selling shares to fans is suggesting it as a long term practical solution or if they are I’ve missed it. It is more an alternative to raising money if it came to saving the club then the shares could/would be sold with Rupps majority later down the line when someone who is willing to take the club forward comes along.

    Rhodes in his statement talks about the club becoming self sustaining, this to me suggests Rupp is unlikely to put money into the club other than for it to tread water and survive which makes part fan ownership more realistic. It’s a far better way of raising funds to keep a club going imo than asking for ‘save our club donations’.
     
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  13. Fordy117

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    Rhodes is out of his depth running a football club. His methods are out dated and don't work. He lives day to day without any vision. 14k fans and doesn't do anything with them. He doesn't even know from them 14k what wealth groups they're in. No segmentation research done of anything.

    Going forward he needs to go... we need to operate with long term vision.
     
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    Just asking because I don't know. Does anyone know with any certainty that Rupp rejected offers to buy the club, and if so were they credible offers?
     
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  15. How

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    I imagine you’re right and not far away with that. No bonuses etc paid to players too for the last two months.
    How’s the rent for the ground paid? We will still be paying that? Looks like we’ve paid for the pitch to have some work done. Utility bills still probably need paying at ground etc?

    Plus I think we are still paying the 20% that the government don’t top up so still some outgoings on wages?

    Edit I think the real problems come with new signings and next season starting with no big boost of income in season tickets (not known what we will do yet) but you’ve got a lot of outgoings when we start to build a squad for next season. Agents fees. Signing on fees etc
     
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  16. Faithful Bantam

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    We’d save on the costs associated with putting games on too. And travelling to games.

    Next season would be more problematic, I agree.
     
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  17. SimonW

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    The problem is that as the PL changing the transfer window showed that Football is a global business and unless everyone introduces the same regulation then it actually has a negative impact. Infact just look at women’s football, there is the wage cap in England and there is a talent drain because of that. Man Utd women lost their captain Alex Greenwood to Lyon this season for example and part of that is because Lyon can offer more in wages than English clubs can. So if we saw all levels of English football put in wage caps you would see players choosing to go abroad where not only the big nations could offer more but most likely the smaller nations. English football is then going to generate less income as it’s a less desirable product thus hitting the clubs financially. It really would need FIFA to implement something but a wage cap is complex as a current League 2 weekly wage is a year or more wage in some countries
     
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    Giving back doesn’t have to be done with money. As I said EFL clubs are largely so backwards in their infrastructure and techniques and are so hesitant to change that they don’t produce players capable of playing at higher levels and also damage players sent to them on loan.

    Its easy to sit there and accuse PL of being selfish but each level is just as selfish in their own way. They all pull in a different direction rather than finding common ground where everyone benefits
     
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  19. Mike Hunt

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    Without the EFL the PL is nothing. Only a myopic idiot can’t see that.
     
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  20. How

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    didnt read your posts before posting my reply but agree with you completely
     
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