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Where are the goals coming from?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Steve Burton, Jun 28, 2022.

  1. Steve Burton

    Steve Burton Emergency Backup

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    Last season we finished 14th, drawing 16 games. A lack of goals was a major reason for our poor outcome. So far we have shipped out 24 goals and brought in 18 goals based on players performances last season.
    Departures 24 goals (Vernam 8, Robinson 4, Cooke 3, O'Connor 3, Watt 2, Lavery 1, Pereira 1, Evans 1, Daly 1, Delfouneso 0, Elliott 0, Bass 0, O'Donnell 0).
    Arrivals 18 goals (Harratt 5, Young 4, Osadebe 3, Smallwood 2, Platt 2, Chapman 1, Crichlow 1, East 0, Odusina 0, Doyle 0, Lewis 0).
    We have remedied many of the problems of last season, but if we still have a weakness, in my opinion, it will be our ability to score goals and win games.
    We have injected pace throughout the side, which should result in more goal chances, and the players are young and improving, which should see goal tallies increase. I fully expect us to improve our performance over last season but if we are going to be nailed on for promotion I feel we still need the acquisition of a 15 or 20 goal a season striker.
     
  2. BradfordCityBrad

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    I can see another attacker coming in, possibly CM and RB. I think we will be fine.
     
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  3. Jordan

    P.L.24/25 Entrant

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    Andy Cook scored 12 from 35 starts, if you keep him fit he at least gets 15 a season in this team. He was scoring a goal every 255 minutes in the league, in a bad side. Last season in L2, Lee Angol scored every 200 minutes. Kian Harratt scored every 205 minutes. Jake Young scored every 151 minutes. We have strikers who when given minutes do score goals or make an impact on games.

    Compare that to Robinson who scored every 381 mins, Lavery with 1 goal in 536 minutes of L2 football.... our rotation options are now guys who made impacts in short times on the pitch. Comparing to guys who scored 15+ in L2 last season, our guys score at a very similar rate already, other than the lads who had freakishly good seasons.

    Only 6 players actually got over 15 goals in L2 last season.
    Telford scored 25 at an average of every 122 mins.
    Stevens scored 23 at an average of every 117 mins.
    Matt scored 19 at an averagae of every 207 mins.
    McKirdy scored 19 at an average of every 141 mins.
    Keilor-Dunn scored 15 at an average of every 253 mins.
    Collins scored 15 at an average of every 213 mins.

    Like you say, the service already seems an improvement. I'd be happy with any of our forward options starting, as the can score if they stay fit, any of them.
     
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  4. Ulysses S Grant

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    Harratt
     
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  5. Botswana Bantam

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    All over.

    Total football, this season. Hammering Donny 4 nowt in the first game.
     
  6. andyc

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    Strange question.
    Different players at different clubs, different surroundings.
    Harratt, could get 20, he could get none. Same with all the players that will be here this season.
    Comparing these lads with Lavery, Robinson, Elliot and Delfonso, who scored 5 goals between them is like chalk and cheese.
    If Chapman is as good as Vernam or better , he could match his 8
     
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  7. Asafa

    Asafa Fringe Player

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    We're not going to get that "20+ goals striker" and we don't need one either.

    Cook / Angol / Harratt / Young / Walker / Chapman / Eisa / Perreira?? all have goals and assists in them. If they can average just over 1 in 4 between them (which I think they can) and throw in a few goals from CBs and the deeper midfielders and that is a high scoring team.
    We look to be a well balanced squad with threats from all sides now with great options from the bench - that makes us a difficult team to play against, teams can't just set up to mark one striker or playmaker out of the game.

    Compare those options to who we started last season with and the difference is night and day
     
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  8. Bantam75

    Bantam75 Impact Sub

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    well we have 4 strikers. Cook is in better shape than how he left things last season
    Angol will be rotated often to prevent further injuries
    Young an Harratt will chip in with goals whenever played. They are certainly better options than Elliot, Lavery, Robinson an Delfonseo

    As for the midfield. With a full pre season behind him, Walker should be firing on all cylinders
    Chapman has an eye for goal
    Smallwood will chip in with a few
    Eisa didn’t play at all last season, he’l bring goals into the team
    Jury is still out on East, Osadebe
    Still talks of Periera coming back

    The lads at the back, Songo, Platt, Osudina will be a threat from set pieces

    there certainly is enough goals in the team. Its simply a case of getting more creative players into the squad. Periera back and an attacking RB would help add to that
     
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  9. Jordan

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    On Periera, Luton have their first friendly on Friday, then the club jet off to Slovenia saturday morning for a training camp. They have a friendly against Northampton when they come back on the 16th. You'd like to think that's long enough to know if they want him around? If he travels, it's looking like it will be a closer to the end of pre season loan spell if/when he goes out on loan again. As Snodgrass hasn't signed on again yet, Dion is one of only 4 wingers they have on the books.
     
  10. borderlescott

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    If we improve from being a midtable team to one chasing promotion we need to see more goals all across the pitch.

    Remember that season Aden Flint scored double figures from CB for Bristol C - 15 i think it was, including a hat-trick.

    we need more goals from CB, more from the wingers as Gilly and Vernam rarely bagged, more from attacking midfield as Cooke wasn’t a regular scorer, and more from Cook or whoever leads the line.

    If the whole team is playing better we can easily improve output across the side, not just with a striker.
     
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  11. Lordbantam

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    You missed Eisa who did play but could get double figures
     
  12. Fuzzy

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    If you look at the numbers from MH's 13 games last season we had GF=19, GA=11, DG=+8. If you extrapolate that out across a 46 game season it's GF=67, GA=39, GD=+28 which is automatic promotion type figures which offers us some hope if we don't sign a 20+ goal striker.
     
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  13. Bantam75

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    The good thing about this season is we have numerous attacking options. As it stands, 4 strikers, 2 Wingers and a CAM. All of whom are good enough to be regular starters in a league two team but will be rotated so will have fresh legs when playing. There is enough goals on the attacking side of things. We just need the CMs to chip in every now an again, an we need the defenders to be a threat from set pieces. Songo did well at the end of last season, it remains to be seen how much of an Ariel threat the likes of Platt & Odusina will be
     
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  14. borderlescott

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    Appearances or goals?! Im not convinced on Eisa but hope im badly wrong
     
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  15. Fuzzy

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    Eisa is absolutely one that we'll have to "wait and see". He didn't do a great deal in his brief outings but even his harshest critic would have to admit that there were mitigating circumstances.
     
  16. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    I know it was only 45 minutes, but he did really well at Forest in the Cup. We missed him when he went off.
     
  17. JonButterfield

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    Well that's true and astute, but it doesn't mean the question is daft.

    He's just asking who gets the goals at the end of the day!

    I think none of us are totally sure, but doesn't mean we won't score any
     
  18. Biker

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    Gotta be way off the pace with only 4 appearances in the shirt last season, hopefully he’s good to go now, otherwise file in disaster folder!
     
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  19. Offcomedun

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    He scored 14 goals in 67 appearances from the wing in a terrible Scunthorpe team before joining us. You've got to think that, if he stays fit, he'll be a goal threat in a decent Mark Hughes team.
     
  20. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    Eisa
    Young
    Cook
    Walker
    Harrat
    Plenty of goal threats
     
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