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University of Bradford Stadium

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Storck, Jul 26, 2022.

  1. Offcomedun

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    Bradford Met District, on the other hand, is a different case entirely. Loads of beautiful countryside, Saltaire, Ilkley, Haworth and surrounding villages etc. Lots of great places to live and to visit. And cheap as chips compared to London.
     
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  2. Offcomedun

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    What things?
     
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    Mate, we must be brothers from another mother! Absolutely agree.

    The no through rail link has scuppered bradford - there was a crossrail movement before the stupid Westgate was built and it got nowhere. At the time the council said it would cost £100million to build a through train station. Then only recently wanted to build a lesser one outside the city centre. Its an absolute travesty that bradford is where it is. The Tory council in the 70s trashed the place and the Labour council since then has done absolutely nothing.

    Who in their right mind thought a shopping centre being built in a city centre with hundreds of vacant premises would mean more commerce would occur. Its absolute madness and Susan bloody Hinchcliffe should simply do one. She's akin to Boris with her intransigence.
     
  4. Ulysses S Grant

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    That is exactly the bigger picture you muppet. Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds all have vibrant city centres, with more to do exactly because they all have 60,000 plus student populations and the associated visiting families.

    My eldest went to Preston. Small uni, dead City, pubs closing, no clubs. As a result all we ever did was pick her up and take her home.

    My youngest went to Manchester. Students everywhere. Loads of bars and we regularly used to go visit and stop over, drinking with her in places we wouldnt normally dream of going like Ancoats & the NQ.

    Read the post and comprehend. Build up the size of the university and you build up even more reason to come, but if all you offer is engineering, peace studies, midwifery and teaching you have no chance.

    Bradford Uni might have a first class business school, but its populated mainly by part time students being sent there by their employers, they come, they learn and they go back to work, whereas Manchester's business school in mainly undergrads, who spend the money and generate a vibe.

    Build up the university and you build up the City Centre and what it offers. It's not rocket science.
     
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    We were there the night England played Denmark in the Euros. What a god awful dump that is. Like you we couldnt find a takeaway open after 10.30 and even McDonalds shut at 10.00.

    The pub we were in was a back street boozer, on the face of it a nice heritage pub, but once the shoppers had gone and the drinkers came out it turned really ugly and some of the language towards the England players of colour was awful. If the match hadnt been on (and not knowing where else we could watch it) we would have left.

    I've honestly never seen a place where so many of the people who live there have facial tats.
     
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    Your post is just proving my point. It’s one of the biggest cities in the country, that’s part of one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country and it’s one of the most diverse as well. It’s also fairly well positioned both In it’s ability to link to other towns and cities but also expansion wise. It’s been poorly managed over decades to not take advantage of these things though and the more that’s happened the worse it’s got and as you said breaking that loop gets harder and harder. But that doesn’t change that it has attributes that if it had been better managed it should be a more vibrant and successful city than it is
     
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    I like that.

    Very apt.
     
  8. Fordy117

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    The Blues talk of levelling up was utter bollocks and I can’t believe some in the north fell for it!
     
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    The government doesn't want to spend money on Bradfords infrastructure (roads, railways etc) because despite what Bradford Council's mythical figures might want to show they simply will never get a return on that investment. Lets fact it, if you were a large national business why on earth would you set up around Bradford centre or toward Shipley? A firm my dad used to work for moved from Hillam road industrial estate (opp lavers) towards the m62 simply for the saving in time and fuel that's wasted stuck in traffic getting out of Bradford.
     
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    The government doesn't want to spend money on Bradfords infrastructure (roads, railways etc) because despite what Bradford Council's mythical figures might want to show they simply will never get a return on that investment. Lets fact it, if you were a large national business why on earth would you set up around Bradford centre or toward Shipley? A firm my dad used to work for moved from Hillam road industrial estate (opp lavers) towards the m62 simply for the saving in time and fuel that's wasted stuck in traffic getting out of Bradford.
    In an era when most folk get things online and we already had mega shopping centres less than an hour away, it was an opportunity to open up the centre of Bradford. Instead we have a hemmed in and a quite claustrophobic bodge job that really is a waste of what could have been a so much better use of space.
     
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  11. Fuzzy

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    I'd start by giving Bradford the same amount of public money per capita as London and sorting out the transport network. As for the location I disagree, it's in the middle of the M62 corridior and the nearest city to the dales so if that location can't be made to work then there's not much hope for anywhere in the UK.
     
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    Yep.

    The fact you can get from Newcastle to London faster than you can Bradford to London on the train tells you everything.
     
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    My how we get deflected. Stadium name now announced. Great work again by the commercial team.
     
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    Yes it looks beneficial all round
     
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    It's an apt name and a great city institute.

    I'm sure we're thankful to all sponsors, but it definitely feels a step up from Coral Windows and whatever we were last year.
     
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    It's not actually very diverse. It's very segregated. It's not like (eg) East London, which has a melting pot of people living cheek by jowl.
    Bradford has an inner city population that is largely Muslim and is growing much faster than the national average. It then has an outer ring of poor, white estates. The two don't mix at all. Beyond that is a large, more affluent, semi rural, white area, particularly to the north. Most people from the outer area don't set foot in central Bradford from one month (or year) to the next - they shop, eat out and socialise in Leeds, Ilkley or Harrogate.

    It's massively in the shadow of Leeds, which has immeasurably better links to other towns and cities in the north. Bradford is a branch railway line - to get anywhere you have to go to Leeds first. All the big white collar employers like National Provincial, the Inland Revenue etc have closed or moved to Leeds. The number of council employees is a fraction of its previous size. So there is no footfall in the centre spending money at lunchtime or after work.

    I'm not sure what, if anything, could have been done to arrest this decline. I see lots of criticism of the council but I don't see many workable plans, with adequate funding, to bring employers, decent shops, bars and restaurants into the city centre. Without a massive influx of white collar jobs, I don't see how shops, restaurants etc could survive and nor do I see anything likely to attract people with money to spend back into the city.
     
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    The City of Culture is estimated to bring £500m in revenue to the City. If shops and restaurants can't make it work over the next few years they need to close the doors and pack in. The City will be attracting a lot of people from the surrounding area who will be spending.
     
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    This is the type of joined up thinking the club needs, our players now know that there are university places up for grabs if they do well at the school.
     
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    You need to understand how business logistics work. The roads around Bradford are some of the most congested in Europe. That's why they build these new mega factories on the m62 and not actually in the city itself. And with Bradford being a dead end in rail terms it really has no future because the Government will not spend in Bradford because the return on the investment simply isn't there. Funny I've just been listening to Hinchcliffe on the TV bang on about lack of investment. Well there was a reason 100 years ago they didn't link the stations up even though they had the plans done. It's just an area that doesn't warrant the spending .
     

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