Tyson Fury

Wilder looks like a right idiot now declining £120M to fight Joshua. Probably still a low ball offer according to @WilsdenBantam

Great performance from Fury.

 

Superb performance and now without doubt the undisputed number 1 in the division. I'm not even sure Wilder will take the rematch either so it's now down to if Joshua has enough bottle to get in the ring with Fury. I'm not sure he has tbh and I think Joshua will try and avoid it but either way he'll have to fight him or Wilder at some point if he doesn't lose the belts again before that.

 

I think the mandatory defence is against Whyte. So any unification fight could be off the cards.

 

Where did he get offered £120 mil to fight Joshua m8? Fury will walk over Joshua anyway.

 

Correction, it was in dollars and the figures range between 100M and 120M. This isn’t a rumour either. It was an official offer confirmed by DAZN and Wilder’s team themselves acknowledged the offer but rejected it.

He turned down FOUR career high paydays to avoid the fight with Joshua and the latest offer was in his own backyard for a sum that would have not just made him one of the highest paid athletes in world boxing but in world sport. To think you tried to tell me Joshua was avoiding the fight and that him and Hearn should give in to Wilder’s demands. He never did want the fight. He took less money to fight Fury and unlike the AJ fight had absolutely nothing to gain in the way of belts.

Him and and the PBC were terrible for boxing. They held that WBC belt hostage for 5 years fighting absolute tomato cans and somehow managed to avoid mandatory challenges whilst doing it. Glad Fury handed his arse to him and I agree that he’ll be the favorite in a Joshua match up but at least there’s half a chance we’ll actually get to see the fight.

 

There’s a difference between a fight been worth 120 mil and him getting that in his hand. He did right not letting AJ call the shots, it was his choice to make and got a good payday fighting Fury twice regardless.

Fury won’t mind greedy Eddie and AJ calling the shots however he was happy to let Wilder have it on his terms and walked through him, AJ will do the same should they fight. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if AJ goes for safe fights, he’s good at that.


Glad you remember comments I make a year later makes me feel all warm and fuzzy

 

Anyway fantastic performance by Fury one of the best I’ve seen. However not the amazing fight some are making out, the best fights imo are those that are neck and neck to the end, it was far too one sided to be a classic.

Hopefully if Fury and AJ do fight it’ll be a lot closer, because I find sport dull when it’s obvious or one sided. Although seeing City win 4-0 now and again would be nice!

 

100-120M was his purse. Turned it down.

The terms Wilder accepted for both Fury matches were significantly worse than the terms team AJ were offering him and yet he was right to not bend over backwards for Joshua?

Not only is that illogical, but if you think it’s got anything to do with terms or anything of that nature then you need to educate yourself on the PBC, Al Haymon and the way their conduct business.

The difficulty in boxing is that once belts are lost they are very difficult to get hold of again as fighters need to force themselves into mandatory positions with different sanctioning bodies. This means that most promoters to a degree are somewhat cautious with at least some of they fighters and often duck difficult challenges. Nothing new and the biggest culprits of this are the PBc and Al Haymon. They have the most in house fights out of any promotional company out there and the fighters (or managers on behalf of their fighters CONSTANTLY turn down career high paydays for their fighters. The behavior of Deontay Wilder and his team with the AJ negotiations is reminiscent of most PBC fighters.

As for Joshua taking safe options, what are you on about. He has 3 out of the 4 belts and as a Champion is forced into fighting top 10 opposition whether he likes it or not. This is why he has names like Alexander Povetkin on his record. The only fighter in the Heavyweight division who rivals his excellent resume is Tyson Fury. Outside of him, name me a single Heavyweight boxer who’s CV comes even close to matching Joshua’s?

I’ll wait.

 

Where’s this evidence of this purse you keep spouting? You’ve already Changed the currency, unless you’ve seen how the contracts were structured you have no idea if Fury’s was fairer or not.

I’ll name 3 who while may not have better, certainly rival his. Ruiz, Usyk and Whyte.

 

But we expected it to be neck & neck, a Wilder KO or a Fury points win, but it was masterclass from Fury. Joshua bottled it v Ruiz and I think Fury will do to him what he did to Wilder.

 

Agree it took me by surprise, I usually like a flutter on the boxing but it seemed to 50/50 to call and not enough value in betting. AJs not bad he’s just overrated imo, and seems to think he’s the new Ali. He stank the place out against Ruiz in the second fight, it was the right thing to do but he’d get exposed trying that against Fury if he was as aggressive as he was last night. Boxing isn’t all about skill and strength, bravery and heart play a big part, I’ve not seen as brave a performance as that last night for a long time he boxed as if he had nothing to lose.

 

@bantamdave41 what do you think the odds would be with regards each fighter in a Joshua/Fury fight ?.

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/tyson-fury-v-anthony-joshua/winner

 

What are you on about? Usyk’s a career cruiser weight who’s had one fight at at Heavyweight against a journeyman. Ruiz has literally good one win in his career against the very guy you’re discrediting and on what planet does Whyte’s record rival Joshua’s? Wins over Parker,Rivas and chisora are up there with beating Klitcscho, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Takam? “Whilst not better” sums it at all mate. You’re making out like his record is crap, he keeps taking the easy option etc and yet you cannot name me a single Heavyweight outside of Fury whose record eclipses his.

Look at the facts. Joshua’s got 3 out of the 4 belts in the division. Not only has he beaten 3 world champions to win those belts but he’s also been forced into defending those belts against world class opponents through his mandatories. It’s almost impossible to have as many belts as Joshua has, keep hold of them for as long as he has and fight “safe opponents”. If you believe that, you need to look into what mandatories are because they certainly don’t pick them from obscurity. He’s also beaten, (factually speaking here) more top 10 opponents than anyone in the division including 2 of the 3 guys you’re now using against him. Laughable!


As for the 100M offer, take your pick:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...joshua-baffling-deontay-wilder-100m-dazn/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gi...-to-deontay-wilder-turning-down-100m-deal?amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....e-100m-deal-fight-anthony-joshua-8909737/amp/


Seriously, how can anyone who follows boxing closely not have heard about this!? It made headlines and is literally all I heard about for months. It’s the equivalent of being a Bradford city fan and not knowing who Stuart McCall is although it tells me everything I need to know.

I’m out

 

Firstly regarding Usyk because you’ve not heard of his opponents doesn’t mean they aren’t respected fighters I didn’t say their CVS were as good as Joshuas but they aren’t as far off as you think, how can Ruiz’s CV not be co considered up there with AJs when he’s beat the guy by knockout and lost the return fight by Joshua stinking the place out?

As for the money so where’s this Wilder was going to receive £100 mil you’re spouting about? I only bothered to read the first article as I imagine they’re the same. But it says £100 mil over 3 fights, guessing maths isn’t your strong suit, as that’s £33.333 mil not including the fact he has to pay tax and trainers promoters etc. He was offered 20% of the contract against Joshua and he’d have had to fight in England. He got an equal share of the Fury fight, the choice of judges and £28 mil after tax in his hand just for the second fight. Who’s my source? Frank Warren himself. Don’t worry I know who McCall is and I don’t miss quote and use the sun as a source.

I’ll leave it there as it’s embarrassing enough, but don’t worry I know Wilder was far happier to deal with Warren and Fury than con man Eddie

 

AJ v Fury is now the fight everyone want to see. A unification fight to see the one undisputed champion of the world.

Lets let Fury however celebrate his victory that was robbed of him the last time he fought Wilder.

 

Usyk’s has ONE fight at Heavyweight against a no one and your argument is that that just because I haven’t heard of the fighters he fought doesn’t mean it doesn’t mean they aren’t good? First of all, I’m not sure where the ‘S’comes from. I’ll say it again for you. Usyk has had one fight at Heavyweight. The fact you don’t know that is again testament to the fact that you know very little about Usyk, his track record and his credentials as a Heavyweight. To use a fighter’s CV who you are seemingly completely oblivious to as evidence that it rivals some else’s is genuinely hilarious. How does beating Chaz Witherspoon Rival beating Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte, Ruiz and Takam and unifying the division twice? Haha!

I’m glad you rate Ruiz and Whyte though. The problem with hyping up the pair of them is that you then have to concede that Joshua hasn’t taken the safe option fighting nobodies as he’s beaten both. Add in his other wins which are far more impressive and you have a guy who has anything other than a shit record. Again, I’ll say it one last time for you, he’s forced into fighting top 10 challengers as part of his obligation as champion. That’s just one of serval facts that you’re being extremely ignorant to.

As for the offer, you’ve got it all wrong. Wilder fought Dominic Breazeale for 10M as his mandotory. The 3 fight deal from DAZN was $20 to fight Breazeale and $80 to $100 to fight Joshua in a 2 fight deal which comes to $40 to $50 per fight. That’s more than what he got to fight Fury and more to the point, testament to the fact that team AJ were not avoiding the fight. You don’t make 4 offers including career high pay days to a fighter you want to duck. That’s obscene.

Another thing you’re ignoring is PBC themselves. If the Wilder case was a one off then fair enough, buts not. An incredible amount of PBC fighters turn down career high money on favorable terms and it happens on a regular basis. The Errol Spence fiasco Terrence Crawford and Charlo vs Haney the most recent examples. They all make the same excuses and it comes down to boxing politics. This doesn’t really need explaining.

You’re using Frank Warren as a credible source but ironically dismiss Eddie Hearn. You need to look into Frank Warren’s history as a promoter. Rips off fighters and I’ve lost count of the amount of legal battles he’s had as a result, but only one is greedy? Look at the facts, research his history and come back to me. Find me one example where Eddie Hearn has had legal disputes with fighters over money and then do the same for Warren.

 

Maybe crickets more your game m9.