Transfer Rumours 2019/20

The ex barrow man we were after before or the other Jordan Williams they have 2con their books I believe

 

Imagine all the extra season tickets we'd sell to women by signing this guy.

 

I actually remember him scoring against us and standing in front of the kop cupping them oversized lugs

 

I'm not so sure. I honestly think that if the club was open about a significant investment that was designed around creating a sustainable 'conveyor belt' of young talent, but that it would take at least 3-4 years to bear fruit, I think most would buy into it.

What people never bought into was Rahic's obviously madcap plan, which tried to kid everyone that our 'youth is the way forward' plan based on signing the likes of Pybus, Patrick and Gunner, was ever going to work.

 

The ex barrow lad. went out on loan to Lincoln in 2018

 

This follows on from some of the points in the thread about training ground. The only way in the long term we will ever be able to progress into the championship is by producing our own players and finding ones released to early by other clubs.
In order to do this it needs money to be spent on youth and scouting and with out unlimited finance the money would have to be diverted from the first team. Not many fans not withstanding what they say now would put up with that

 

Certainly it needed more than
Under 21 ? check
Two legs ? check
Played U18 somewhere ? check
Cheap? check

 

Why would we dream about being a perennial League Two team with a pointlessly expensive academy system again?

 

Handy if they need to open some bottles on the team bus.

 

The comparison is ridiculous, fans would lose their s**t is we modelled ourself on a bog standard League 2 side. Imagine that!

Who have they really developed that has gone on to bigger and better things? I can't of many/any.

 

Think we have to concentrate on players that will strengthen us. Trouble with bringing players on is that there are no guaranteed outcomes and there would still be a need for serious investment.A luxury we don't have much of, better to raise our 1st team game.

 

I haven't looked this up but forgive me if I'm wrong - but investing in an academy is great but we need to be able to sweep up the young talent. Look at the clubs that we have near us whos network is far greater than what ours is!

Huddersfield
Leeds
Blackburn
Man City
Man United

Just a few off the top of my head, these talented players will opt for the above over us, what is the need for investing if we can't yet bring the calibre of youth in?

 

On the subject of the academy side. ALL 2nd year scholars have been released. Although I know we're expecting good things from couple of this seasons 1st years.

 

That's all well and good but to make Colchester an example kind of rules out the argument. Who have they developed and why are they still in League 2. I think the most important point and has been since Parky took over is that if you have the right manager with the right backroom staff and mentality then that will, as proved, get you results. The training ground issue has only been brought up in the last 2 weeks because of a few comments from an ex, seemed to be fine with Parky and Mccall who both had good records despite us not owning our training ground or producing youngsters to sell on.

 

Is that true or something you saw on Twitter? Someone posted the same yesterday and apparently isn't not true.

 

I don't agree that we should be investing in youth as the deck is now stacked so heavily in favour of big clubs that the best players under 16 simply aren't going to remain in our academy. They don't have to, and a new facility won't sway the very best.

The days of Crewe Alexandre bringing through reams of Championship level academy graduates are over.

Colchester are proving you can bring graduates through at League Two level. I'm sure some bigger clubs are bringing through graduates consistently of League One quality too - Barnsley, maybe.

But I do not see how this is something we should be chasing ourselves, much less dreaming about.

Outside the big Premier League and Championship clubs, academies rarely pay off.

I'll eat my words if Colchester win League Two with kids though. But I can't see it.

 

Another example
A L1 club that's produced and sold on
Bradley Dack
Harry Arter
Ezri Konta
Karlan Grant
Darren Randolph
Paul Konchesky
Jonjo Shelvey
Ademola Lookman
Carl Jenkinson
and might just get promoted

 

I think you will find thats what we are at this very moment in time. A bog standard league 2 side that owns neither its own training facilities or stadium. Good luck selling that Stefan.

 

I was on about Colchester who've spend £4m on a training ground yet are still in League 2 and don't really produced/develop and sell on players.