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Think need to lower expectations

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lancaster Bantam, Nov 24, 2021.

  1. Lancaster Bantam

    Lancaster Bantam Fringe Player

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    After last night shocking second half, and the crap I have watched so far I have decided to lower my expectations of this club I love so dearly.
    We are just a mediocre mid table at best league two side with a surprisingly huge following.
    I see on social media people wanting adams out and Stefan and sparks, and seriously what does that achieve a big fat zero! Changing manager every six months/season just gives us at best new manager bounce for a while and then back to normal mediocrity. As for Stefan he running a business not a football club his aim is to break even or make a bit of profit despite rahic year and with help from mcburnie he done just that. He probably doesn’t want to own a football club as we don’t want him at helm but both stuck with each other now. As for sparks well he at least he is more transparent than Rhodes and rahic and let’s us know what’s going on.
    I will still cheer them on every week and Moan when we lose but as for believing hype and that I’m now going to take it game by game and see how seasons pan out.
     
  2. Fools Gold

    Fools Gold Squad Player

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    SR should come out and state that he is actively trying to sell the club . And if he isn’t why not ? He clearly doesn’t give a monkeys about the club . It’s been a disaster since he took over . He’s at the top of the problems
     
  3. Dratsab taf

    Dratsab taf Squad Player

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    Has JR left yet?
     
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  4. chris mac

    Euro24 PL Entrant P.L.24/25 Entrant

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    Because city has a big stadium and sells lots of cheap tickets, people think we are a massive club. We are where we are, teams like Harrogate with a tiny ground, and support are out doing us.
     
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  5. Jordan

    P.L.24/25 Entrant

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    To be honest, fans should have looked over in August at the squad we assembled this summer and figured out it would have been a big ask for them to challenge. Maybe it's because Adams recently achieved success with a poor squad and we thought lighting would strike twice, but the window just seemed off. Not surprised at all the head of recruitment was binned days after the window shut.

    We signed Threlked to play full back, even though he hasn't played the position for over 2 years, other than filling in twice for Salford. Ridehalgh who has probably been one of the better signings, but he's 31 and has never had more than 28 starts in a season his career as he always picks up knocks. Kelleher, christ knows where that one came from.

    Angol, looks good in spells but cant/wont move too quickly as his hamstrings don't look like they exist anymore. Lavery and Eisa, two injury prone players in recent years. Songo'o didn't come in fit, injured in pre season and took too long to get anything out of him. No club wanted Robinson, didn't sound like Adams wanted him either. And i dont think they know, or Gilly himself knows where exactly he plays? He's a right winger who drifts centrally and offers sod all to the right back in terms of protection.

    But the club doesn't help itself. I mean in the summer you had Sparks in the press saying "this club wont accept mediocrity anymore".... that's gone well. Then he went on the Peterborough chairmans podcast saying "we don't sign injured players" knowing we had guys like Angol, Lavery and Ridehalgh who miss months every year with injured just signed weeks before.

    We just dont seem to have signed smart players. The amount of individual errors leading to goals this season seems off the scale. Teams never seem to tear through us like they did under McCall last season, and in the later stages of the T&S management. Most the goals lately just seem from our own undoing.
     
  6. Rogered Tart

    P.L. 23/24 Top 30 Euro24 PL Entrant P.L.24/25 Entrant

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    Great Post.
     
  7. Dennis

    Staff Member Moderator Supporter

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    Good post.

    The only addition I could make to that is the role of Sparks in this. Prior to the start of the season he said that not being promoted this season would be regarded as failure. Of course, we all know that he was trying to sell season tickets around that time, to get more bums on the seats at VP and to strengthen links with sponsors, partners etc. But that statement may well come back to bite him. It shouldn't be a surprise to him that he raised expectations amongst the fans and he and Adams should rightly be judged against that. It's not looking good for either of them at the moment.
     
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  8. Mike Hunt

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    The club and its Chief Executive set the expectations.
    Not getting promoted is failure. Him and Stefan Rupp have failed to put in place the infrastructure and sign the right players to back up those words.

    Failure this season sits on the shoulders of Sparks and Rupp.
     
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  9. bantam65

    P.L. 23/24 Top 10 P.L.24/25 Entrant Supporter

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    Expectations are already lower than a snakes belly who's trying to keep a very low profile.
    How much lower shall we set them?
     
  10. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    My expectations were/are that we tread water in mid table, playing not very good football with a lack of quality in key areas whilst complaining that we can't compete with other clubs at this and National League level because we 'won't risk the future of the club'.

    Christ, do I need to lower my expectations even further than that?!
     
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  11. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    Not sure why he would be actively trying to sell the club. As long as he is not having to actively support the club financially he will sit out the Covid years before even looking to sell.
     
  12. Ulysses S Grant

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    My expectations are already low enough, thank you very much.
     
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  13. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    I think the difference in expectations are possibly due to 'recent' higher levels that the club have achieved eg Premier League and then the fall. Those that have followed the club for longer will remember spending more time at the lower levels. Now this isn't to say we should just accept Division 4 football for ever but over our history it is our more natural level
     
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  14. borderlescott

    borderlescott Squad Player

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    Jordan’s post is spot on.

    I was a bit concerned at the end of last season but with Adams coming in, us having a good preseason and starting the season well I was very optimistic.

    The hype from the club, after I was apathetic last year, reeled me in, but the disinterest from Rupp is annoying me, as is all this talk of Sparks moving on to better things?

    on what basis are people saying that? He’s failing at the minute. Anything less than a top seven finish and genuine promotion attempt this year and we’ll lose thousands of fans in the summer. Only way he can rectify things is to get Rupp to sanction January reinforcements - 3/4 new faces. Like we did last year. Like Bolton did. Make a statement. Actions, not cheap words, which anyone can give on a podcast.
     
  15. AngryGaz

    AngryGaz Impact Sub

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    I wrote this season off weeks ago :( think we are nailed on to finish midtable ......... until Adams has at least 2 windows to sort these cowards out then we are gonna sadly finish around midtable
     
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  16. borderlescott

    borderlescott Squad Player

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    Scunthorpe is a six pointer. If we cant beat a struggling side like that its going to make December a very long month. The board have brought in new recruitment staff to work with Adams so its very unlikely they’d contemplate firing anyone before Jan. But if we don’t win at least two of the next three he will have lost the fans and that’s not a place we want to be.
     
  17. Fools Gold

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    Because he doesn’t like football ? Why is Covid a issue in selling a football club ?
     
  18. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    It will have effected the value, so if he is in rush because it is no longer costing him extra why would he be in a rush
     
  19. Parader

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    The talk of Sparks moving onto better things comes exclusively from people on this board and has no foundation in reality.
     
  20. Parader

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    Admittedly it is on a much lower level, but I have little interest in the things I have investments in, doesn't mean I am in a rush to sell them on.
     

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