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Takeover Rumours

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by EdwinB, Dec 9, 2021.

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Who would you like to see running the club

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  1. JonButterfield

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    Eh? Aren't you opposed to a buy out?
     
  2. Park bantam

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    No I’m not however I don’t think any new owner we can attract will run the club much differently
     
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    Financially that would be fine, but they'd have to be a heck of a lot more interested.

    And in the almost inevitable event they aren't footballing experts, at least smart enough to realise they need footballing experts to guide them.

    In that regard, I'm not convinced they would run the club the same as Stefan, who has been convinced he doesn't need to put time OR effort into the club.
     
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    It probably goes back to Rahic who will have convinced him the best thing for him was to be a sleeping partner and nothing more than an investor, since then we’re probably nothing more than a small part of his portfolio that he one days expects to make a return on which just shows his lack of knowledge of the sector.

    Look at Dale Vince at Forest Green, that’s where having an owner with a vision and being a leader can get you. Well above where you’d expect them to be and according to Sparks have a smaller budget than us.

    Sorry but in 21st Century football you’ll never convince me the owner doesn’t have an important part to play and that’s not just throwing money blindly at it, especially in the lower leagues where you can afford less experts than those at the top.
     
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    This idea that new owners would run the club the same way is that laughable I can't believe someone posted the comment. For a start any new owner would automatically show more interest in the future welfare of the club just by walking through the door. A desire to be successful is the first and foremost thing we should expect from an owner, not just someone deeds to the club.
     
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  6. JonButterfield

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    I also suspect Rhodes has convinced him he doesn't need to throw good money after bad.

    Rupp always spoke about investing and righting the wrongs, then he employed Julian, and that's all over now.

    Rhodes always was super tight financially and (rightly) obsessed with sustainability. The stories that he made Lawn take his loan back asap underline his bean counter nature.

    But it's gone too far under Stefan.

    Not even interviewing candidates, recruitment behind closed doors, people who are within arm's reach only...

    It's like Julian's MO on steroids.

    Spend within our means has become DON'T SPEND ANYTHING, only spend what you make.

    We'll be told Julian has never told Rupp anything of the sort, maybe he didn't, but maybe he didn't have to. It's a regime by proxy. Learning by observing, and getting it a little bit wrong.
     
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    Not at £10m it's not.
     
  8. Park bantam

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    Like this guy
    apologise if you are one of those supporters I have let down,” Swann said in October. Swann, the owner of the Sands music venue in Blackpool, cannot be criticised for a lack of trying. He has invested more than £20m since taking ownership in 2013.7 Dec 2021 The Scunthorpe United bottom of the table chairman
     
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    Not sure what point you are making. Like this guy what?
     
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    I'm guessing @Park bantam@Park bantam is using Peter Swann at Scunthorpe as an example of an owner who is interested, but very poor.

    Of course, there are successes and failures in all guises - we don't need to look as far as Swann for an incompetent-but-interested character, we had Rahic. He was definitely interested.

    The truth is, there's no right or wrong personality-type when it comes to football owners, but not caring to the point of neglect ain't working. Of course, Rahic over-reaching also didn't work. But what do Rahic and Rupp have in common? Neither have surrounded themselves with expertise, albeit for vastly different reasons. Rupp doesn't know what he's doing and is obsessing about cheap; Rahic didn't want anyone else having any input.
     
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    How has he neglected since he went solo the club has been brought back from a financial crises ridden out a pandemic sorted out the pitch a big problem for years making the first ground improvements in years and appointed a manager that most people thought would be a success. The Rhodes and Lawn partnership was getting similar criticism until the appointment of Parky I know I was one of only a few who had a good word for them Parky turned it around and if Adams had done anywhere near as well we wouldn’t be having this thread. I personally am not bothered who the owner is though a very wealthy city fan or even a football fan would be welcome I just feel Rupp doesn’t deserve the ride he is getting
     
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    Where is the evidence that the decision to sign players on short term contracts and loans is anyone's other than Adams ? He is on record as saying he doesn't like handing out longer term contracts because he believes players lose motivation and on record as saying that he believes loans are better value in the January window.

    We have a good budget, one that if used well would have seen us at least in the top seven for most of the season, but we also have a manager who has spunked that budget away by signing dross and making three or four changes every single match. Rupp living abroad isn't the reason we have failed this season. That is 100% down to a stubborn, out of touch manager who thinks he has a right to succeed and a right to be supported by the paying customers no matter what bizarre decisions he makes.

    Get the right manager and it doesn't matter if we are owned by Stephan Rupp, Katie Price or Barry Chuckle in terms of what they know about football. Get the right manager, get promoted and who owns us is totally irrelevant and all the talk about this being Rupp's fault will be forgotten as quickly as it's been brought up.
     
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  13. JonButterfield

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    Where is the evidence we have a good budget?

    Adams is also on record saying we don't spend more than other teams.

    “You are judged by the money that you can spend. I was at Morecambe last year and we had the lowest budget in League Two. Because you are at Bradford City, you have to pay a wee bit more money for players because we have such big crowds and agents and clubs think we spend more money than other people, which is not the case.”

    Whatever number our budget is, it's clearly on par with many other teams in League Two.

    Sounds to me like rather than having a 'good' budget, we simply have an 'average' budget.

    The fact we are performing averagely makes a lot of sense.
     
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    Sparks has said in two different interviews we have a top five budget
     
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    Then why has he appointed a low budget manager? Why was all the talk about how Morecambe had the lowest budget in the league, and that's okay, because you can do without spending a lot of money?

    Where are Sparks' facts coming from?

    Even if we have the fifth biggest budget, Adams has literally said we're on a par with a lot of other teams and that we don't spend more than they do. Perhaps were fifth, spending a few quid more than the next ten clubs?
     
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    Which interviews? At the start of the season he claimed competitive, then top 7 the goal posts seem to move every week. Budget could also include overheads which obviously we have more than probably anyone so our playing budget could be well down.
     
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    Top five budget?

    Thats why kelleher/lavery/robinson/threkeld are in the squad and the exciting Jan loanees daly/dion/elliott are making such a difference to this team, you can just feel the quality this top budget brings.
    Lol.
    I think we've been had but am waiting for the slow learners to catch on ;)
     
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  18. Petrov

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    Sparks has said quite a lot of things that have turned out to be bs. The budget stuff could be another one of those things, and would go someway to explaining our poor recruitment both in the summer and January windows. Or the budget stuff could be correct in which case, we appear to have 'spaffed' a fair bit of it up the wall. Either way, it's nothing to shout about is it?
     
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    Playing budget
     
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    And Sparks has raised a lot and done quite a bit through good business deals
     
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