Summer 2023 Transfer Rumours

Young is 21 years old. Written off far too soon by some. And an obsession over his goals/game ratio.

Look at precious Andy Cook when he was 21. 8 in 60 at NL level.

Or how about Wyke who had 10 in 70.

Young isnt even an out an out striker.

 

My post was about people manipulating stats to suit their point, not individual players.

I didn't mind Young, I thought he had ability but clearly there's something not right there so probably best for both parties for him to move on. Even if it is only temporarily.

 

Bearing in mind he is so young, probably a bit soon to judge Odusina's 3 year deal and Oliver mainly didn't play last season because Cook got 31 goals, so a bt harsh on him too (though this latest injury admittedly doesn't bode well). So there's only Young who's a certified failure. You're not gong to get every single one right, it's not possible, and Young is much more than balanced out by Lewis for example...

 

Tend to agree Kevin. Three year contract because we presumably saw some potential but then whispers he didn't give enough in training, even some on here have said they saw him strolling around rather than putting it all in at Apperley Bridge. It appears even MH couldn't change that and neither could Pete Wild at Barrow. Equally FGR with promotion didn't see him as L1 material.
At his age, as Bronco says, you would give your right arm for the opportunity but for some reason Jake hasn't and his comments about joining Swindon in today's paper says a lot. "I remember playing here (Swindon)........the fans were just brilliant and the stadium was bouncing and definately something that (has) attracted me here".
Very strange comments but like others I wish him well, tear it up and show us what we should recall in January, somehow I doubt it and a drift to non league, shame.

 

I don't think many are writing Young off, just seeing the writing on the wall. I get your point over comparing successful strikers at his age, but you're league stats are slightly off.

By the time Cook turned 22 (Youngs age) he'd just left Barrow who were semi pro at the time to join Grimsby in the same league. When turned turned 22, he had played 63 games, all in the national league with 46 starts and 18 goals.

By the time Wyke turned 22, he'd been loaned all over the pyramid but had played 67 games with 57 starts and 10 goals. With 12 starts and 2 goals at NL level, 42 apps (32 starts) and 4 goals at L1 level and 13 starts and 4 goals at L2 level.
Difference with a Cook or Wyke comparison is that Cook and Wyke knew they were strikers, they were developing one craft. Young has probably had as many games as a forward than he has playing out wide.

Also, Cook had left Barrow for Grimsby. Same level but semi-pro to professional making his way forward. Wyke was still a Middlesbrough player being sent around the pyramid to develop.... Young has always been signed to be a first teamer, and hasn't yet broken through, anywhere. I's not like Middlesbrough loaning out Wyke to gain experience, we aren't loaning Young out for the experience at this point, it's Jakes 4th club in a row at this level which seems more 'getting him off the books' rather than 'get him out to develop'. For me it screams something off field, maybe with his attitude. FGR didn't fancy taking him as a 20 year old to develop with them in L1. Hughes tried him, didn't work and fell out. Pete Wild, known for giving young lads a chance with Halifax tried him and didn't fancy him either. I hope this one works out for the lad and he kicks his career on, but that many sideways steps in a short space of time doesn't paint a good picture.

 

Certainly my sentiments and clearly I hope those thinking the same , are utterly wrong but I can’t see it. The suggestion he will perhaps pull up trees in Swindon and thus be called back to return to VP as a different player are at best fanciful. There is talent in there, but he needs to channel it in the right direction. Sadly to compensate for having an “attitude” , which “works” with some gifted players, he isn’t gifted from my observations The sooner he realises that the better.

 

Don’t over exaggerate the three year deal. In the long run they can and are more cost effective than most two year deals. Think about it. I demonstrated the “ numbers” a few weeks ago.

 

Good job we ain’t Chelsea, the masters.

 

Be fair to Young - he turned 22 just a week or so ago so we have only seen him as a 21 year old. And that is comparable to Cook who at that age had 8 in 60 at a lower level.

Dont disagree with the rest but it seems Youngs stats are continuously used as a stick to beat him with.

Young has only ever had a professional contract at FGR and Bradford. He left FGR for first team opportunities but yeh, at Bradford there is a falling out with Hughes.

 

That's what i did with Cook. His 63 games, all in the national league with 46 starts and 18 goals are up until his 22nd birthday.

It's easy to paint pictures with a "he's only scored 5 in 45" type stat for example, which many are thrown around these days. But unless you break it down with how many starts or positional play, it seems pointless to me. This is probably the most important season of Youngs career as if this one is another failure he will struggle to find an EFL club by the time he leaves City. He has a chance at Swindon who it sounds like may struggle to take a full 18 to Colchester on Saturday. Fingers crossed he hits the ground running and he's off to the races.

My fear with Young is he doesn't know his best position and guys like that are easy to rotate in and out as they just never nail down a slot, especially at this level. His last 30 starts, he's had 15 up front, 13 on the left and 2 as a 10. If I was him I'd want to nail my craft down in one slot and try get a solid place on the teamsheet rather than pleasing many positions.

 

Was just about to say the same thing when I read your post. Regardless of the rumours of poor attitude, which I think is a bit unfair as we don't know what goes on behind the scenes, I'm not sure what he actually did well bar his right foot shot cutting in from the left. Doesn't seem an out and out striker like Andy Cook not does he have the natural attributes of a wide player, I've mentioned before he reminds me a bit of Alex Jones. I hope the lad does make it but we.aint seeing him in a Bradford shirt again as our manager clearly doesn't rate.him in any position.

 

Please enough about Young he’s out on loan now. Anything about to happen in this transfer window??

 

Yes agreed, too many people get a bit fixated on certain topics. It's happened so let's move on. We know we need incomings so let's have some credible rumours. Is Billy back at The Stanfield this morning!

 

Do you mean fixated on the only actual transfer that's happened or been close to happening in the last couple of weeks?

Unfortunately it's slim pickings at the moment as MH is clearly happy to go with what he has while he either waits for already identified targets or gives himself time to assess.

 

Yes I do mean that. Better to post nothing than go on and on and on and on about the same thing. JY is not worth the time and effort. Yes this transfer window has been quite boring but it doesn't mean we have to post just for the sake of posting something

 

TBH I would rather him wait. He can asses the squad competitively and giving it a bit more time doesn't mean he is taking whatever is available. Always a raft of players available towards the end of the month.

 

Ah, apologies.

If you'd just have made it clear you were the forum police from the start .......

 

Careful, you're going to be in trouble for posting something just for the sake of it.

 

I suspect if he bums out at Swindon, he might end up well below Halifax' level.

 

Few little L2 transfer bits...

Crawley have signed CB Will Wright from Gillingham. The defender had a successful stint as captain of Dagenham, then moved up to L2 and Gillingham last summer, but failed to stick a place in the side, managing 23 league starts over the season. Seems on paper like another Crawley signing that could well feature in the nation league next season.

Wrexham have had 2 approaches rejected for 2 forwards this week. Parkinson confirmed they've gone back in with another bid for one and given up on the other. He says teams are inflating their prices due to Wrexhams market demands, dont blame them.

And experienced defender Aden Flint is about to sign for Mansfield. The 34 year old centre back has agreed to join the L2 side after a long career higher up the pyramid. Flint was a regular at championship level until a few season ago where it appears the physical side has caught up with him. He was phased out for the end of the 21/22 season then signed for Stoke. Didnt look up to standard to Stoke before having a loan spell at Sheff Weds to end last season with a promotion. Could be a good signing for Mansfield, but the fitness and legs might be an issue later in the season.