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Simon Grayson - worst Bradford City manager record ever

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Urban Soldier, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. Urban Soldier

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    Just saying only caretakers who have managed for 1 or 2 games have a worse record.

    5 points from 24! Two goals scored in 720 minutes of football.

    Horrendous.

    A bit of fight tonight and we are all creaming our pants. Shrews were poor. Despite only having 10 men we still never put enough pressure into the match in areas that mattered.

    At Blackpool we were headless chickens, tonight we were headless bantams.
     
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    Your team as just concerned five goals and capitulated beyond belief.
    What do you do?
    You give your players a right bollocking over the airwaves and through the local press.
    Tonight the players didn't let anyone down,they tried to win a football match but just came up short of victory.
    After witnessing the debacle at Blackpool up close I'd say well done to both Grayson and his players tonight, keep it up next Tuesday.
     
  3. Johnnymccole

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    Give him a chance ffs, these are not his players.
    Stuart had lost 8 on the trot previously.
    Parky had a run of 22 games without a win during his tenure.
    I’m not saying that Grayson is the answer, but he deserves to be given time to get his own players in. What I feel would help is him signing a contract, even if it’s only a 12 month one.
     
  4. Urban Soldier

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    please show me where Stuart lost 8 in a trot? if we are going to get into a debate please dont make up nonsense.

    He lost 6 in a trot inc 1 cup game. In fact if you look at his last 8 league games before he got sacked (Graysons tenure) he had indeed more points that Grayson.

    McCall deserved the sack after that run, but lets not kid ourselves, Edin never backed him when he needed it regarding having round pegs for square holes but Grayson tactics / team performance has hardly caght the eye.

    For someone who came in and said we were lucky to have him Im still struggling to see why.
     
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    For all I agree with much of your post ........... Singling out Grayson did not have me reacting ............. It's your factual points, that did.
    You see, SG came in as a result of our performances sliding, OK ? Was SG also privvy to the off field issues ? I doubt it.
    My point being, that Grayson was infact trying to combat against a double edged sword. Might I suggest that any incoming Manager would struggle to overcome the two, simultaneously ? At the moment, SG is fighting a Battle - but Wars can often be enduring. Let's see where SG carries and takes City, before he becomes an unjustifiably early hanged man. Yeah ?
     
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    Last night we showed a bit of bottle but it also highlighted how woefully poor our recruitment has been. We don't have a "match winner". We don't have players who we can genuinely say they "create chances".

    Thats not Graysons fault....it goes back to before the season started AND further back.
     
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  8. Johnnymccole

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    By the way urban, with regard to your thread title, here are a few names who may contest that:-
    Peter Jackson
    Peter Taylor
    John Docherty
    Chris Hutchins
    Jim Jeffries
    Bill Harris
    I’m sure there must be more
     
  9. Urban Soldier

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    Again a very ignorant reply and one that is false. I will keep this simple for you. Since our club began the manager with the worst record (not 1 or 2 games) is David Wetherall

    His stats are 14.2% win record with a points return of 0.71 pts per game

    Grayson has a win % of 12.5 and a points per game of 0.62 pts per game

    So in the future do your homework then we will engage in a debate.
     
  10. RonnieBrown

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    So - U S ............ Can we actually review Graysons 'stats once his tenure has ended? Failing in doing that - your 'stats too would be false, and perhaps ignorant, no?
     
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  11. Derrie

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    I think it's unfair to judge Grayson so harshly. Most of us gave McCall the benefit of the doubt due to not being backed in the January transfer window. The team needs strengthening and our poor run of form spiralled out of control. We lack quality and depth up top.

    Whatever you feel about Stuart being sacked Grayson has come into a very tough job and without being able to sign players he's trying to turn around the dreadful form whilst the chairmen and fans are having a minor crisis. It's not an easy job and I don't think many managers would have fancied taking this job by our current standard.
     
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    I thought we were giving our opinions about Grayson, urban?
    I was offering suggestions as to who I thought could have been worse managers, by the way I also know how to use google and stats don't necessarily mean everything. I find your initial comment obnoxious and arrogant and think the list of names are good examples of the crappest managers we've had. I also discount whetherall because he took over when the club was in absolute turmoil And was unable to sign players or make any reasonable decisions
     
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    How come all these teams come to Valley parade having played great all season are suddenly poor. The answer is of course they don’t and they didn’t City played-well
     
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    With his own players he will get us out of this division, with our wonderful transfer dealings in January it showed the inadequacy of the team to perform for a complete season.
    I do wonder after our defeat at Wembley if Edin was just setting Stuart up to fail.
     
  15. Swindle

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    I think Grayson will do well with is own players and this has been proved in the past. I also believe that Grayson will be with us next year and this is because Rihac is having to make concessions due to his inability to manage.
     
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    I’d like too see SG in the job next season . Am not impressed with what we have seen so far but honestly Carnt See any one doing a better job under the circumstances . He has the best CV for what we require and think once given time and hopefully a kitty he’ll give us a really good solid team next season . I don’t see anyone out there with better credentials who would take the job .
     
  17. Swindle

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    Just hope that a deal can be done
     
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    I have every faith edin will be on with it as we speak :eek:
     
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    Agreed. I'm most impressed that he isn't sugar coating the lack of quality in the squad like some might. If he's given a good top 6 budget, I'm confident he'll get us up
     
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  20. Urban Soldier

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    I agree with most replys.

    1. Simon Grayson is a coup if he is allowed to manage and if there is no interference from wannabe head of football twats that really are accountants.

    2. If Simon Grayson leads us next season we have the best man possible who will keep Edin away from team affairs.

    3. Simon Grayson wont put up with bullshit or poor players budget, so if in charge then Edin hand has been forced to adopt a proper plan.

    4. If Simon Grayson wants a 31 year old signing, he will get one and will not let rivals like Scunny take our best players. He would not allow it full stop.

    So I am delighted if he is here next season. BUT with capital letters

    McCall had these players punching above their weight. Our owners reasons for his sacking was due to the thinking our players were under performing so my argument is surely our head of football is nothing short of a buffoon who should retire the head of football title and let others who have had a career in football manage. Only then can SG be judged like others have said.
     

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