Rupp & Sparks Out?

Yes it was me who posted it, it wasn’t until after I did that I realised I wasn’t mentioning another football league club. But hey it’s just a case of getting the manager right, I mean with that logic we must have had at least one good season in the last five logic and law of averages dictates it doesn’t it? Oh never mind and I thought football was so simple…

 

Simply the truth

 

Strange that every club in the top 2 divisions now has a plan or model how it’s said on here, many in the lower 2 as well including lil Barrow who are above us. But hey if the professionals are all wrong you go tell them and save them a fortune.

 

I suggest you answer it however you want. It wasn't a trick statement.

I was on these boards after the Notts County game - slating GA's naivety in setting us up that way and wondering why Cook gets off lightly, compared to some other senior players this season. Perhaps you missed those posts?

On your point about league positions, surely you're not using a placing with barely a third of the season gone as 'evidence' of decline. In that case I'm sure you're balanced enough to give Rupp credit for our best L2 finish since 1982.

You see both are ridiculous comparisons. One takes this stage of the season and assumes that's where we'll finish - the other suggest Rupp should get praise for us having a high position in the league below the one he bought us in!!

But I'm like quite a few others (witness that lack of protests yesterday and the decent crowd on Tuesday) in that we can't say that they are 100% to blame, get rid (as there must be someone better out there) and all will be great. If he'd starved us of money so we didn't have a very good budget, I and the others would probably agree with you. It could be that we see Sparks long term deals plan, bear fruit. Young will be of interest to clubs above us in January - if he goes for a fee, then I'll expect you to state that was one thing Sparks got correct (note, that clubs like Peterborough, that have (or had) a similar approach to signing players, only have and only needed to have a low success rate - for that to give the transfer coffers the boost they need)

Oh! I'm not "shit scared" of risk and have spent more than 30 years in a sales / consultancy risk management industry, where I have to put my 'you know what on the line' and make risk decisions on a daily basis. Wrong ones, could end up with me serving time!!

So it's utterly arrogant of you to assume that those of us who think there could be far worse than Rupp are some kind of bubbling bed wetters who never go out the house without our umbrella's and burglar alarms on.

We just disagree. Nothing more.

We're a bit more pragmatic and sensible and could look around and name around 30 clubs, who have fans with the same frustrations. Christ, Hoyle started getting Hassle from the Terriers!! Unbelievable after all he'd done. One of my friends who's a Barnsley fan, thinks they are terribly run etc

But there you go, I'm afraid that something better than Rupp may be a lot harder to find that you naively think. If risk taking is walking into a hurricane with no means of defending yourself, then you're correct I'm "shit scared" of risk.

 

LOL!! I love the way some posters come out with comments, that are figments of their imagination. I was commenting on the debacle last week at half time. I often don't post if we've won, certainly not the same day. Not least because those who love to moan rarely comment after a win, so where's the fun in debating then?

I'm just a supporter who's not going to join in with the 'Rupp out' brigade, unless we've got a better alternative. As soon as we do, i.e. we hear that someone good is interested in buying us and Rupp won't sell - I'll be with you 'brother'.

Apologies, some of you take this almost as a personal insult.

 

No it’s not a ridiculous comparison at all as our league position this year, while poor is only the tip of the iceberg. We’re a whole division, with interest, down on where we were when Rupp took over. So no it’s not judging in just one third of a season.

 

We've a plan or model. It just hasn't borne fruit yet.

Certain aspects might be good, i.e. giving youngsters long term deals - we won't know that for another year.

One thing about the plan is that it needed Sparks to commit to his manager and not jettison them when he gets his 50th moaning e-mail.

That's how that likes fo Wycombe progressed. Ainsworth's initial tenure had them up and down the L2 table like the proverbial yo-yo. But they stuck by him and are arguably one of the ten or so success stories of recent years.

So yes the plan hasn't worked and Sparks is certainly at fault.

 

You can't judge a league position in November and make comparisons with the end of the 2105/16 season. Two years ago, Bristol Rovers were 8 points from the play-offs and 12 from automatics, halfway through the season - I use them to show you how ludicrous it is to assume our placing now is set in stone.

Let's see how the season pans out, because if Accrington are one of the best teams in this division - then we might yet become the first club to get promoted, in ten seasons, after sacking their manager after the season has started.

And Young been sent away, looks like an astute business decision as each week goes by - but again we'll see what the future holds.

Rupp got it badly wrong allowing Rahic anywhere near the club (and I apologise for even suggesting we needed to give that idiot time). However, Sparks in the footballing world is still relatively new to the job (yes, the three years seems like hell, but it is a short time) Lawn / Rhodes had three failures before Parky - so I'm OK with not jettisoning everything yet, without seeing the benefits.

 

You carry on defending crap, each to their own. I’m tapping out though. I can judge what I want though, just like you can choose not too regardless of 7 years of evidence

 

I had to have a long think about that comment and by the skin of their teeth watching Bradford City just about wins.

 

Only just though

 

What because Rovers did what they did then any club can? Bollocks.

It’s not about where we are now it’s the build up to it. Even if we did go up this season I wouldn’t trust Rupp and Sparks to get anything right.

Bottomline is way wait? They need to go and go ASAP.

 

What is the plan/model because I haven't heard it being coherently described by the Club. I've heard soundbites and clichés which have later been cast aside or not lived up to. No plan or model though.

 

Go where exactly, yes Sparks could be dismissed but what is your grand plan to get the owner to walk away?

 

The craft of wording replies to suit your narrative. 'Not borne fruit yet'='Plan ain't actually working'. I can imagine a scenario of dropping into the national league, fans questioning the clubs supposed plans and the club shrugging their shoulders and saying 'Nothing to worry about, just hasn't borne fruit yet' lol.

 

We've a plan/model ?? please avail details to us and then maybe forward it to the club hierarchy
You can't honestly believe that Rupps plan/model was to take us from minutes off the championship to bottom 6 L2 it's ridiculous and without foundation that you relay we have a plan
Your positivity is incredulous at best and whilst everything is rosy in some fans eyes I doubt the vast majority who don't have to research much to know there's a problem
Keep applauding failure fella am sure it's appreciated/believed somewhere

 

The fact it doesn't work doesn't necessarily mean we haven't got a plan. Maybe we have a plan, it's just a p#ss poor one, or badly executed. I'm sure Everton had a plan too.