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  1. Faithful Bantam

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    There’s no one single model that equates to success. What’s needed is vision and a plan, and the means to execute that plan. And it can’t come from your manager, he has to be an agent for delivering that plan. We don’t have a vision or plan.
     
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    Have to say, I am a bit stunned by that comment.

    I would love us to have spent the last fifteen years or so in League One with excursions into the Championship.
     
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  3. WilsdenBantam

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    feck sparks feck Rupp and feck any on here who defend them. You’ve earned this.
     
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  4. Tennesseebantam

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    I wouldn’t know John Dewhirst if I fell over him but he comes across really well and I feel the article is reasonable. After reading it this morning I was waiting for the vitriol to pop up on here. Not disappointed. Some of the interpretations are just bizarre. The idea that he is nothing but a club spokesperson is simply laughable. Just because he presents an alternative viewpoint he deserves to be thought of as some lesser person. Still, if you want to consider his post garbage, that’s fine but trying to suggest he’s saying it is always the fans fault is a bit of a stretch. Similarly, the assertion that the article insults fans intelligence because it plays into the negative, down beat, trodden on persona which some fans genuinely seek comfort in and don’t want to strive for better is risible. I’m sure you’re concerned and rightly so (I am too) but dismissing an article with an opposing viewpoint in such terms is a bit daft.
    Put it this way, present your arguments in a more even way, you might even convert a few happy clappers. :thumbup:
     
  5. Dennis

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    How is that working then? Despite all of the good work by Davide Longo etc to bring more commercial income into the club, despite fans paying more for their season tickets, despite more season tickets being sold, the playing budget for this season hasn't been increased one jot. In fact, over the past 5 seasons, according to Sparks, the playing budget for the current season has stayed around the same level as we spent in our recent past. That has nothing to do with how well the budget has been spent but rather it reflects how the club chooses to spend its extra income. How do you explain that if the club is giving the manager as much support as possible?
     
  6. Biker

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    The buck stops at the top but when did we last have any first team saleable assets ?? I am struggling to think of many first team players that have left us and stepped up a division in the last 5 years, they are extremely few and far between.

    We are signing L2 bog standard players or unproven players or injury prone players (Walker/ Pattison/Oliver) and you reap what you sow. Even this years loans have been a flop. Last time we had a decent loan he ended up getting poached by Plymouth.

    We signed a championship midfielder in Smallwood and he looked a bang average player for us from day 1, no doubt on some huge money for a L2 player. Cook has been a good player but on a 3 year deal at what cost to other areas of the squad.

    Our recruitment year on year is frankly, abysmal.
     
  7. Faithful Bantam

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    You're as big as you act. We have a big fan base, and a big ground (or rather, we rent a big ground). That's it. What else do we do, that demonstrates we're a big club?

    I feel like a broken record, but you'll never go anywhere without strong and capable leadership. There's a litany of clubs who've dropped down the leagues, reset and recovered, overcoming as big if not bigger challenges than we've faced and done it much more effectively.

    I don't want this to be a personal attack - the reality is, our owner had his pants down when buying the club and isn't really interested. He wants to avoid losing money, which to a point I understand - though I think the failure to get him to invest is a symptom of inexperienced and weak leadership at the club itself. Moving beyond the owner, we have a young, inexperienced CEO who's never operated at anywhere near the level he's now at. He was the easy (and almost certainly cheap) option, installed to oversee a very simple and unambitious mandate of 'don't run us at a loss'. And there-in lies the rub; there's a complete lack of growth mindset, we seem to have no proactivity to seek investment, build capital, manage risk on the basis of where we can grow rather than what we can prevent etc. We lack experience and skill at the top, simple as that. Its the root of why we flounder.
     
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  8. Faithful Bantam

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    The one lingering justification for circling the toilet end of the football league, was in 'not being loss making'. If, with 18k paying fans and a turnover of 7m a year with no obvious investment in growing the club, still generates a loss in achieving a mid table league 2 position, then not only does is show how inept we are but we may as well pack up and go home.
     
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    On the radio/ifollow commentary, Raynor kept referencing that they were trying to line up an interview with Sparks and GA for after the window closes, touched on some of the concerns and scepticism of fans in the response to the T&A interview, and the complete lack of engagement from Rupp. They know its not landed well, and that more and more fans are growing restless and concerned about the leadership and direction of the club.
     
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    I think finally we might be at an impasse. We've seen it with other clubs, fans get to the stage where they can't take no more. Well i was sick of hearing the bullshit about him being our saviour and be careful what you wish for or this ridiculous retort of 'well name me someone who will buy'.
    There is nobody willing to buy because the bloody owner values it way too high, this a valuation he puts on business he doesn't really give a shiny shite about, he values it that much he never even spoke to the new manager coming in the building 'I'm hoping to get to speak to him soon' was what the new manager said. If that wasn't damning enough then i simply can't help you.
    How we get him to relinquish ownership i know not. There will definitely be a downtake in ticket sales come this summer and Sparks, for all his David Brent mannerisms, is gonna have to look at the possibilty of cutting budgets because of it.
    Please Stefan, consider your position and what you doing, or in respect what you aren't doing to my wonderful club. You are probably a decent fella and got caught up in summat you naively thought you could make a quick buck on.
    We have a saying here in Yorkshire,

    Shit or get off the pot.
     
  11. Dennis

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    Yes, I've said it many times that if our aim is to become an established Championship club, it will require either a substantial change in the mindsets of the leadership at VP or a fundamental change in the financial regime within EFL football. I really don't see either of those happening in the immediate future.

    In the meantime, no doubt there'll be more suggestions that fans should club together to buy the club and/or the ground 'cos it makes good sense. Unfortunately, I've yet to see any of those proposals referring to how the £10mill or £20mill annual loss in the Championship would be financed!
     
  12. Ashton Bantam

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    Likewise. I really, genuinely don't expect us to be winning every week and realistically at our limit as a club we're top end L1, bottom end Championship in this day and age.

    However, it's the complete and utter apathy from those running the ship. There's no vision, no investment, no indication of a brighter future no matter the timeframe. We really do just whack a squad together every summer and cross our fingers. We have stagnated, regressed in reality and nothing will change until significant changes happen behind the scenes. L2 isn't a difficult league to get out of. There's four spots up for grabs every season, you need to be organised, physical, well drilled. Six seasons now and we've come close once. It just isn't good enough.
     
  13. Dennis

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    The covering letter is certainly only a couple of pages. The bulk of the package however contains several hundred individual messages to Rupp from City fans expressing their own views on how the leadership of the club has failed on many levels.

    It's a poor response from the owner when he chooses to ignore when many fans took the time and trouble to put their thoughts in writing to him. There's no excuse for that. Hopefully what he saw on Saturday with the fans' reaction to the game will help to change his mind and to take more notice of the fans' legitimate concerns.
     
  14. Dennis

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    Yes we do.

    Palios has tonnes of experience in football management gained over many years. He is well respected in the business world as a partner at PWC. He knows what has to be put in place to have a chance of being successful.

    In comparison, Rupp and Sparks know zilch between them. Therein lies our problem.
     
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  15. Petrov

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    What happened to that good news you told us might boost season ticket sales?
     
  16. SteveC

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    I said the exact same to @Kevin1954@Kevin1954 the other day when i said if the job is affecting sparks mental health then he should get out now, to which Kev asked me to name a successor. As I said in my post, I absolutely detest lazy responses like that, as if I’m going to know anyone with the exception of the obvious (Dave Baldwin or that sharp bloke, formerly of Wigan and now at Mansfield). But just because I don’t know who could be a replacement, shouldn’t stop me expressing my opinion and frustration about a massively inept CEO on the footballing side of things
     
  17. Dennis

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    I'm not entirely sure I understand the point you're making. It's almost the 5th anniversary of when Rahic stepped down as Chairman, CEO and footballing factotum and left the club. Since then we've had two other CEOs in charge and nearly a team's worth of football managers. All of that has been under Rupp's sole ownership and Chairmanship of the club. He is ultimately responsible for where we are as a club. It's about time that we stopped blaming Rahic for our current situation.

    For us fans, I'd say that the past 5 years have been a footballing failure. We continue to languish in the bottom division and despite everyone's best endeavours, I suspect we'll still be there next season. Of course, Rupp may well see it differently and judge the club's success in very different terms. From his perspective, the club is ticking over, he isn't having to provide any of his own money to support the club and has placed the day to day running of the club in the hands of his CEO. He doesn't appear to have much interest at all in football and gets his sporting kicks from driving sports cars and he has other business interests. That's not to criticise him but it does help to explain our lack of progress. The progress of the club isn't his main priority.

    The sooner he finds somebody to buy the club from him who has a genuine interest in the future of the club, the better for the rest of us. In the meantime, he'll continue to rely on his CEO to run the club in the way he, Rupp, wants. That's his prerogative although I'd prefer a different approach.
     
  18. JonButterfield

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    Yes.

    What he doesn't get credit for is the fact we didn't get promoted, we didn't make a good start to the following season, the crowd became flat once again due to unfulfilled promises and a lack of connection between manager and club, and we've sacked Hughes and replaced him with someone that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever - again - leaving us needing yet another major squad overhaul in the Summer - again.

    As a result we have gone from being close to promotion to being nowhere near.

    Another season in League Two, a mediocre-looking appointment as manager, a squad overhaul that probably won't get us any nearer our goal, still lacking any sort of identity or clear expectations that fans can align with, and a season thrown away with almost 30 games to go - that is, if/when we secure our survival - which isn't guaranteed.

    It's not all Ryan's fault, but he's the CEO, and he constantly tells us he wants all the accountability. Guess what? He's getting it.
     
  19. Rogered Tart

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    Not wanting to turn this into a MacAnthony thread but some facts.
    Comparison since he took ownership at Peterborough and the corresponding league seasons of the club and is at Bradford.

    Peterborough.

    League 2 - 1 season
    League 1 - 11 seasons
    Championship - 4 seasons

    Bradford

    League 2 - 11 seasons
    League 1 - 6 seasons
    Championship 0 seasons.

    Fans of clubs will moan no matter what division they are.in, it's the nature of the beast.
    But looking at those facts above, I know which club has the better owner.
    And it ain't us.
     
  20. JonButterfield

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    If there's one thing Ryan is trying to do, it's making sure the academy 'links' to the first team. He has appointed good people in appropriate roles to ensure there's some continuity.

    That's commendable, and it's proper he gets recognition for it.

    But it falls on it's face the second you realize that the Bradford City first team stands for absolutely nothing. How do you actually achieve continuity from the under 11's straight through to the first team when the first team has no identity whatsoever? What is the point investing in the academy if you can't decide what kind of football team we are, or the kind of football we want to play?

    I'll tell you why Redfearn was brought in, and why the academy is invested in: it's made us some money. We've sold our decent youngsters, so Ryan has followed the trail of gold, and it leads back to the academy.

    But there's no link up to the first team at all. Bobby Pointon has come in and even he has no fixed role in our first team.

    That's because our first team strategy is a fly-by-night, whatever-wherever type affair.

    Credit where it's due, but at the same time our focus on the academy exposes our lack of aptitude at first team level.

    Make it Ryan's motto: We are nothing, we stand for nothing, we achieve nothing.
     
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