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  1. Tony Wilkinson

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    Telling ain't it that Labour, the teachers unions and the forum resident lefties are keeping quiet.... !!
     
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  2. Tony Wilkinson

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    That's not too much to ask is it..?
    Except we've gone so far down this soft woke road now there won't be a way back...
     
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    Not sure about banning Religious schools. As much as I'm generally anti-religion, I do very much believe in freedom of speech and banning religious schools feels contrary to that. However, I don't think religious schools should be publicly funded and I DO very much believe that religion should NOT be taught in public schools. I'm also uncomfortable with the extent to which certain social and political agendas are creeping into how children are being taught. Schools should be about teaching academic and practical subjects and developing children to think critically and speak openly.

    I completely agree - under no circumstances should protests be allowed outside of schools whilst children are in attendance.
     
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    I was talking to my neighbour who is the Principal of a localish secondary. Her view was interesting and she said that the teaching of religious studies in most schools is now a comparative study rather than focused solely on say Christianity It compares the 6 main religions for their common features and their differences without making any judgement on a particular religion. How that is presented and what material is used needs to be seen in that context. How it is presented to Year 7's say is very different to how it is presented to Year 12's. Her view is that it is designed to create an opportunity to remove some of the barriers and gives her students a historic and a social context for current religious differences and conflicts.

    At her school, she's received both positive and negative comments from the parents and understands that her experience is replicated elsewhere in other schools. One particular comment pops up regularly that most students had no idea that the 3 Abrahamic religions have a common cast of characters! It's an eye opener for students and parents alike. She also said that most negative comments came not from parents but from what might be called zealots from all sides!

    As you say, most teachers in the non-religious school sector which is the majority would take exception to using religious studies as a means of promoting a particular religion. Morning assembly when the school sang Morning Has Broken is thankfully a thing of the past. Secondary schools have certainly moved on significantly from when I was there.
     
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    Keelfy has hit the nail right on the head. All about context. Most of those 'protesting' outside Batley Grammar won't have had a clue what the context was. Look, if some want to get on their knees and worship a make believe sky pixie then i ain't gonna stop them. Just don't get upset when non believers pick you up on it.
     
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    A funny story from the other week, a lad i work with from time to time is in to this Jesus and God stuff, all the stuff about animals on arks and all that. His young daughter came home from primary school before lockdown and wanted to become a muslim because all her mates at school are. poor fella was distraught :joy::joy:
     
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    I don't mean to be disparaging of anyone's faith, as I know it can be a source of real comfort and purpose for some. However, it strikes me that religion is little more than an outdated concept, centered around a quest for determining mean and the origins of the world, and to establish control systems for the masses. I wouldn't mind so much if religion was taught on that basis - i.e. apply critical thinking to challenge the foundation of those religious beliefs and where they came from. Thinking back, when I was at school in the 80s, Christianity was broadly taught as gospel, Christian songs sung in assembly. It was strongly inferred that the bible was 'the word of god'. There was no reference whatsoever to it being a book written by a collection of people - in some cases hundreds of years after Jesus was apparently alive, with bits added and removed according to whoever held dominion of that particular faith at any point in time.
     
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    He wasnt called Stanley Garnett by any chance was he ? my old form master at Lapage Boys School he was quite a character was our Stanley.
     
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  9. Tony Wilkinson

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    Would be much more useful to teach the kids more science, see and research pictures from hubble and then start the discussion..
     
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    That would take some growth as currently 60% are Christian and less than 5% are Muslim
     
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    I hope you are right but fear those figures are massively out of date with over 20% of children in school non English already
    The best estimate is that around 7 per cent of the UK population will be Muslim by 2020. That's pretty fast growth, up from nearly 5 per cent in 2016, due mainly to migration and higher fertility in the Muslim population.
     
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    Non English could be Christian though. Such as the large Polish and Eastern European population that now live in Britain.
     
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    I've been hearing this stuff since I was at school. Doubt it will ever get close to happening in my lifetime or even in my kids.
     
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    Not true. The figures you quoted in the Express are for children that don't speak English as a first language. Many, if not most, of those will have some English and others will be age-appropriately fluent, even if the language they speak at home (ie their first language) isn't English.
     
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    Jeez, sounds rough mate, good in a way though that you can get back to work, looking forward to your usual impartial(?) contributions on here...
     
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    Does this also mean that you think we should have been allowed to mix together all throughout then?
    Or does that train of thought only apply to protest groups?
     
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    Sorry Aaron but I couldn't disagree more strongly.
     
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    It's getting late Aaron and we're definitely not going to agree.

    Enjoy the game tomorrow, here's hoping for 3 points :thumbup:
     
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    A similar thread to this yesterday seems to have been deleted.
     
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    A news report this morning on ITV said that the protesters weren't even parents of kids at the school.
     
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