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  1. YungNath

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    I agree, you don't get that rich by being naive so he's definitely not blameless there for sure
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    That's just rubbish. Rupp and Rahic paid what was asked to Lawn and Rhodes for the football club. It is of no fault of theirs how it was run after they had left. And I'm not Rhodes biggest fan but fair play to him coming back at the request of Rupp, he didn't have to.
     
  3. Mike Hunt

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    But Rupp himself was seemingly tricked by Rahic. When the bought the club they made all the right noises, here for the long term, investing in bringing through young talent, aiming for the premier league, not changing the way things were done. It was only after the play off defeat that the wheels started to come off.

    I’m no great fan Rhodes but I’m not sure what else he could have done four years ago. Hindsight is amazing.
     
  4. Rogered Tart

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    Completely agree Den, I cannot believe for one minute a very successful businessman worth well into the millions would buy a business with a 'partner' he hardly knew, effectively fund the whole thing yet not have a clue what was really going on behind the scenes. Naivety like that does not make you a wealthy business man. Or if has been alluded to on here that Stefan was happy to go with the Rahic narrative he was being told then he ie equally as culpable of the mess created. The fact he's stayed around to try and right some of that wrong is or isn't admirable depending on your own agenda. The salary cap has saved his bacon somewhat as the outgoings should be met in the long term by the clubs turnover.
     
  5. Dennis

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    I have no idea what ER was saying to Rupp about the position at VP. I suspect only ER and Rupp and a couple of insiderd would know that. But that's not really the point. Rupp was by far the biggest investor in our club through his investment companies. He appears to have given ER free rein to run the club despite some of the concerns being expressed on social media and a few key personnel leaving the club at short notice. Rupp ignored these warning signs. Why? He was either far too trusting of his co-owner or he really was asleep at the wheel. In either case, imo he was negligent and the final result was the same. Yes, he eventually stepped in when things were dire and the club was heading down the pan. At that point the damge had already been done.

    Rupp injected cash to steady the ship but that wasn't entirely for philanthropic reasons despite what some say. It was equally to protect his own investment as it was to make amends for the mess which had been created. If the club had become insolvent, he would in all probability have lost his original investment. It was in his own interest to provide the short term finance to protect his own position. He didn't inject extra equity to make good the problem his co-owner had created as I might have expected but instead provided the club with repayable loans. It was a short term expedient. Fortunately for him, his Get Out of Jail Card arrived - the Oli McBurnie sell on. He's been able to fill the financial black hole which he was complicit in creating with this rather than having to dig into his own pockets. Imagine how an additional £3mill windfall could have transformed the fortunes of our club were it not needed to remedy the problems created by the two of them?

    I've never met the guy but would like Rupp to put this entire venture behind him and another buyer to come along and take over the club. Preferably somebody with vision who can see a future for the club. Unfortunately with the salary cap in place and once the current Covid crisis is over, the club may be able to tick over and reach break even. That may encourage Rupp to stray with his investment until his supposed asking price is met. In the mean time, the club will in all probability continue to tread water.
     
  6. Gildy Pete

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    Progress up the leagues at all or any costs. It sounds exciting but when the wheels come off it's very distressing.
     
  7. Biker

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    At least McCall is only here till end of the season too, should be a clean sweep.

    no mention of how he screwed up appointing Bowyer and how he is leaving us with possibly our worst squad ever.
     
  8. Bronco

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    Good post @Faithful Bantam@Faithful Bantam I just think you're being harsh and over critical with regards Julian, his intention was never to stay long term, he was Stefans appointment once he uncovered Rahic debacle, we needed someone in quickly and as we all know Rupp wouldnt have known where to turn so Julian was brought in short term.
    He had someone lined up, I'm sure you lads on TCA know all about it, he was let down and had to start again looks like he may have found someone, as you say new guy at the helm let's hope he brings his vision as you say.
     
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  9. mrtrickio

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    Baldwin's six month notice with the EFL fits that timeline..
     
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  10. Ashton Bantam

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    A somewhat depressing interview.

    Yes, we are fortunate to be in a stronger position than most and fans are grateful for that.

    But we also want something to get behind. Hoping to achieve promotion one day, doesn't get the juices flowing. Much of it has already been said but where's the foresight with management succession, long term recruitment, club infrastructure? It just isn't there. A generation of City fans know nothing but the bottom two tiers. That isn't good enough I'm afraid.

    We were told upon the first relegation to L2 in 2007 that we had a five year plan to be back in the Championship, we're still waiting 13 years later. In that time Yeovil, Burton, Scunny, Donny, Blackpool (even reaching the Prem), Wycombe, Luton (following 5 years in the National League) have all surpassed us and reached the Championship. Have any of those thrown cash at it? Are any of those better placed than us to have reached that level? Heck, even Harrogate look ahead of us now. It's not simply about more cash, it's about being wiser with the cash we do have.

    The below list of 57 players has been posted by someone on Twitter today which kind of sums it all up nicely. 57 players over the last 3 years - how many a success?
     
  11. XCIV_Bantam

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    Huw Jenkins maybe?
     
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  12. Faithful Bantam

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    I believe that's what they do think. Perhaps if the club engaged more openly with fans they're quick to dismiss, they'd better understand the nature of the feedback they get. I can't think of many successful businesses who succeed on the basis of dismissing where its customers tell it that its going wrong.
     
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  13. Faithful Bantam

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    Look at the varied responses on this forum. There are some who are notoriously 'glass is half full' who only ever see positives, there are some who are right at the other end, and most are somewhere in the middle, talking openly with a mixture of curiosity and concern about how we're being run and what our forward looking plan is. 'Ambition' is a generic term whereby I think fans just want to see something credible as to how we're planning for a better future, for sustainable improvement and to address obvious gaps in and around the club. The leader of this club clearly doesn't see that and in my opinion hes shown contempt for a significant portion of the fanbase. The sooner he's replaced by someone who wants to be here, who can re-engage the wider fanbase in a plan and who spends more time talking about how to make the football team better than justifying our budget lines, the better.
     
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  14. Bantamsteve

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    People still wonder why we struggled to sign players
     
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  15. Petrov

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    'It's disappointing when you get the know it alls passing negative comments constantly'.

    Can't help but think this bit is aimed at you.
     
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  16. Inspector

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    With the wage cap in place we have the money (allegedly) to bring players if Stuart so wants. It’s outside of the playing side where the tiny acorns should be planted for the future. There’s no sign of that at Valley Parade. We’re all second guessing what the owner wants to do with us. Until he makes a definitive statement, we may as well go and sit by the riverbank, swing our legs to and fro, stare at our shoelaces then watch the league go by.
     
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  17. Faithful Bantam

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    Let's hope Rhodes assessment of suitability for his replacement is better than his suitability assessment when Messrs Rupp and Rahic came calling.
     
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  18. Bronco

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    Wonderful thing is hindsight I must buy some, as it seems more and more Bradford City fans have it in abundance.

    At the time of the sale there were no fans suggesting it was the wrong decision selling to Rahic & Rupp, what happens after is irreverent to the sale, Rhodes & Lawn can't be held responsible for them not doing what the promised.

    I'd have given your comments more credibility if they had not taken us to Wembley during their first season at the club.
     
  19. Dennis

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    Yes they can. They could have made it a condition of the purchase of the club that they, R&R, agreed to invest further in the club of £Xmill in infrastructure or the playing squad. That's exactly how Portsmouth was sold around the same time to their new owner. Unfortunately ML and JR didn't do that.
     
  20. Dennis

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    No. There was no luck involved at all. It was a condition of purchase and explicitly stated in the original sale prospectus provided to all prospective purchasers.
     
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