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Reality check mid table at best squad

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lancaster Bantam, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. Bronco

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    Hardly a convincing reply but go on we all believe you.
     
  2. Steve1970

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    I said at the beginning of the season we would end in 12th position @JonButterfield@JonButterfield asked what drugs I'd been taking I'm not doing too bad at my prediction.
     
  3. JonButterfield

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    I searched the words drugs out if curiosity but didn't find a post? I'm sure you're right, but I'd like to see the context of my post...
     
  4. Tolly856

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    Even when Bowyer was here to you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone who thought the current squad was even top 10 material minus Vaughan, Doyle and Cooke never mind top 3.

    At the start of January I didn’t think we were that far off tbh. All we needed to do was keep the squad as it was and add maybe 3 quality players. A box to box midfielder, a creative winger and a defender. We addressed not of those areas and lost arguably the 2 best strikers in the division to boot. A truly abysmal transfer window that killed off any chance of promotion.
     
  5. Steve1970

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    I had said we wouldn't finish top 10 I predicted 12 and you asked what drugs I'd been on other than trawling back through thousands of post I hate to say I may be correct plus you asked which 11 teams was better than us if you remember that post.
     
  6. Rogered Tart

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    A quite pathetic transfer window that kinda sums us up as a club.
     
  7. Bronco

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    Listening to the game last night on Sky one of the commentators were saying Aston Villa got into the promotion mix last season by winning 10 games on the trot, don't count your chickens :whistle:.
     
  8. Steve1970

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    What I've seen so far this season Dave I've no need to count them I've put them back in the coup.
     
  9. Bronco

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    That's fair comment then the question to be asked is did the owner not trust Bowyer with more money after we'd struggled around that time or was there no money available without getting rid of the likes of Doyle and Vaughan, but yes as you say it doesn't cover up what was a very poor January window.
     
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  10. JonButterfield

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    Not sure the post about drugs exists mate.
     
  11. Steve1970

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    Tried searching for it but can't find it mate
     
  12. JonButterfield

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    Actually, I've found the post you're referring to and you owe me an apology.

    I never said you were on drugs.
    You never said we wouldn't be top 10, you said we'd be closer to relegation than promotion.
    I asked you if there were 12 teams better equipped than us, although 'closer to relegation than promotion' would place us in the bottom 7.

    So three things:

    1) I did not say anything offensive, I did say give your head a shake though because there aren't that many sides better than us
    2) You said after 6 games with a record of 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses wasn't good enough and would get WORSE, but actually we've IMPROVED on that ratio.
    3) 7th place have 55 points, 23rd have 30. We have 51. So no, we are not even CLOSE to being nearer relegation than promotion.

    I will accept you're unlikely to issue me an apology, and that's fine, but I thought I'd clear my name of your accusations. You are misremembering on a fair few fronts.
     
  13. Steve1970

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    I wasn't saying you had said anything offensive I was just stating that you had said there wasn't 11 teams better than us but the way we are going at this moment in time I am looking to be nearer my prediction.
     
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    Okay fair enough, but we're still a way off being bottom half - although like you say, it could happen. I don't think it will, though, if we keep picking up points at home.

    If I had to place a bet, I'd say we'll finish 10th.

    To be perfectly honest, neither of us are far off with either of our predictions.

    If you go further back into the posts to the end of the Summer, I was predicting 7th at best, but more than likely missing out. I imagine you'd have been saying something similar?
     
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    With what went on with rahic I was more inclined to say bottom half especially as @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler said it could take up to 5 years to get back to where we was. I just hope Stuart can be given the time to put a complete restructure of the squad and get us moving upwards and not stagnating in league 2 for the next 3 years.
     
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  16. Briggus

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    Grayson new manager bounce?, Hopkin new manager bounce?, Bowyer new manager bounce? The fault lies initially with Rahic recruiting players not good enough / without a backbone, followed by a shocking January recruitment, some poor recruitment by Bowyer, a further bizarre January transfer window. Mr Rupp and Rhodes too are culpable. If you are changing manager at least give the new one a chance to retain bring in some of the players he wants.
     
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    Today's squad contained I think 13 out of the players that were signed after Rahic.
    It is now becoming a convienience to blame Rahic.
    End of the day, we've signed some complete Sh!te
     
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  18. JonButterfield

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    Yeah, although this season has shown that we can run it fairly close for a period even without a proper plan in place.

    It might take us 5 years to get back to play off contention in League One, but next season we should definitely be striving for top 3 under Stuart, and if he fails, the following season we simply have to get the appointment right and kick on because as you say we cannot afford to stagnate in this division.
     
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    Nonce is a bit harsh
     
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    The worst January windows always involve Rhodes. Coincidence?
     
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