Raise budget or reduce expectation!

We are fooked unfortunately. No decent manager is gonna want to come and manage us and work under the constraints of those 2 muppets and I don't blame them one bit. I wouldn't want to neither. No wonder Parkinson left.

 

Most managers will because it’s a guaranteed 12 or 18 month contract. They’ll agree to the terms then moan like hell when it starts to go wrong.

If they’re not going to give the new manager a decent budget, then they better get somebody with decent contacts in the Premiership because we’ll have to use the loan system I’m afraid.

 

Sensible comment from Simon Grayson about managing money and expectations. If our owners had said: "Our aim is the championship and then the Premiership but on the way there we are determined to stay within budget even if this slows our progress down." it would have been better for all, I think. Just my twopence worth.

 

The more i hear the more i dread next season.

 

Nothing wrong with the article, to be fair. We already know a higher budget could mean a better chance of success. Yet there are no guarantees. If all 24 clubs had the same budget, it would be unfair to suggest each club had an equal chance of promotion. It's how you use that budget.
The same with the Training ground. Grayson didn't say it was poor. He merely pointed out that as it's rented, you can't tailor it to your own needs.

 

We shall see.
I thought these owners were meant to take us forward.
Willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Glad we didn't get Grayson.
Note to owners actions speak louder than words.

 

It's Grayson who needs to reduce his expectations.

He's obviously only a good manager if he has a massive budget and first class facilities. All this proves is that our owners don't want another manager like Grayson. No doubt we will see Grayson back at VP next season because no Championship club will touch him with a barge poll.

 

If summer transfer dealings are unacceptable we may need to think about a protest at a pre-season home game.

 

Nail on head

 

Can't judge a pre season but give it 5/6 games in and if we start off poor i have no doubt there will be protest of some sort.

 

Good job Huddersfield and Accrington etc don’t listen to him then

 

I disagree with his training ground comment, firstly it's a joint ventue between the two parties which has been fit for purpose for several years, the article I posted about how before the players meet up trained had no showering facilities no where to eat ETC.
Now they meet up at Rawdon Meadows change into their training gear do a session eat together, have a swim maybe do gym work they have an area where physios can work with their injuries, we're a league one club struggling to field a team that can challenge this coming season, with regards renting I have friends who never wanted the responsibility of owning their own home and got council houses many years ago and they were better decorated than ours originally as I had a mortgage to fund and they saved because they paided low rent and had a beautiful home, and any external problems with their house they rang the council and the
job got sorted.
I believe he was more worried about the fact he was not getting a budget that meet with the fans expectations and he was in a position where if he didn't do well it would refelct on him, now that I can't blame him for he can't as manager say my budget is crap, nor can he expect the owners to tell the fans his budget is not the best so anything above midtable is a bonus.
IMO he's not signed because the budget is not good enough which no one can blame him he has to have the tools to do the job, but IMO the training ground is a red herring.

 

Its the training ground that is irritating to me. He says the training ground we rent is nice, but you can have things your own way when you own it! Hello we are trying to get promoted and need every penny in that quest.

 

I would consider that the training facilities were only mentioned because they were one of the 'items' SG discussed with the Chairmen. I would be surprised and shocked if they were a genuine reason for him not taking the Job. As @Bronco rightly points out in his post ....... The facilities we have now are a vast improvement on those Sunday League type arrangements City endured, not so long ago.

 

Grayson joins the growing number of voices raising concerns.

 

Me too sadly. I'm questioning why I spunked £169 on my season ticket. I know why, because I'm a supporter and an optimist usually. The more that goes on and the more little bits of information like this that come out fill me with mroe and more dread. It's looking like a long hard winter.

 

What have we been saying all along? The muppets want promotion but aren’t willing to finance it, they really are deluded. They got so lucky with Stuart and the fact that he managed to do so well with so little. It seems to me that they’re thinking is that every manager will be able to deliver that kind of success. It just doesn’t happen that often. But hey ho Edin knows football and we have to take him seriously.

 

There's definitely something in this with regards to the expectations.

Pretty much every thing the current owners have done was mirrored to some extent by the previous ones. The difference being that they've been positive in their words, possibly even overly so.

Lawn and Rhodes were all doom and gloom and downplaying any expectations and seem to somehow have got more credit for this negative outlook. Maybe we just like the sense of impending doom?

I don't actually think Rahic and Rupp can wind back in their positive statements now though. They can't go back from the things they've already said.

That's not to say that there aren't worrying aspects such as the recent post by Wetherby Whaler or the article from Grayson. It's just that on the face of it we seem to prefer negative noises from the boardroom rather than positive ones.

 

Totally agree with you Bronco. My kids go to the school and the facilities I would say are as good as any in League 1, noticed yesterday that the main pitch as you come in is getting totally redone too. I don't understand why he's so bothered about owning the training ground, ok if something needed changing that could be an issue but I'm if it was a piece of equipment or something to improve the training then they'd look at getting it in, can't imagine many things would need changing.

The budget was always going to be an issue but again he has decent players within that squad to develop and work with plus he hasn't seen Reeves, McGowen and Jones properly who would all play a good part of a decent squad.

I think he saw the rebuilding of the team was too big for him with players he couldn't manage/turn into his players and with a budget that would not have guaranteed promotion next season.

Maybe he's got to a stage in his career where he doesn't have the drive to develop/improve a team given how highly he rates himself or his record looks and would rather have one of the biggest budgets in the league and almost guarantee himself another accolade on his record.