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  1. Nottsy

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    Whatever happened to buying a poppy and wearing it with respect and quiet dignity? Instead of all this pissing and moaning about who’s not wearing one, and who’s not selling them. Gets right on my tits.
     
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  2. trevor

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    I think the remembrance of the 100 years of the first world war is different and worth the extra, The men and women who went to war were volunteers not the regular army or called up, They volunteered to fight for both their country and for the freedom of Europe, They gave up families, wives, children and in most cases their future for a cause and freedom that a lot would not see and would die for others freedom, They deserve some recognition be it by a poppy or something else, They were brave volunteers who died for our ours and Europes freedom and deserve just a moment of thought on Sunday.
     
  3. alex

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    Each to their own as far as I’m concerned. If you don’t want to wear one fine, if you want to wear one fine.

    The whole idea of a free nation and freedom of speech/expression is that you get to choose. Everyone banging on about it disrespecting the people who died to deliver freedom during the war(s) seem to forget that the freedom that those people died for allows you to choose whether to wear a poppy or not.
     
  4. Rogered Tart

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    The poppy has, through no fault of its own, become a 'look at me' symbol, as attention seekers look at ways to think of more extravagant ways of outdoing last years attention seeking. What's wrong with how it used to be, you'd buy a poppy of the guy from the british legion and then wear it on remembrance day. Now we have 'rivers' of poppys, football kits with poppys, emergency vehicles with poppys, everybody on TV wearing one weeks before november 11th etc. And if you dare to disagree with this like James McClean and not wear one you are chastised as some sort of Devil character. I always put some money into the collection tin as a small token of my appreciation of what was sacrificed by others for future generations benefit. But i do not wear a poppy because of the hysteria that has come to surround it. It doesn't make me think any different, i just refuse to be forced to do something because of pressure from sections of the public and media.
     
  5. Bumblebee_Tuna

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    A sign of the times. What's the point in remembrance and respect if you haven't got an audience to witness you doing it? You only need to look at Facebook to see the hollow carnival of disingenuous bullsh*t that surrounds every single tragedy and death. Nothing is personal anymore. Not one to knock the younger generations but this is the number one failing at the moment. Look no further than the Leicester City tragedy last week for the latest dose of mawkish insincerity!
     
  6. trevor

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    That is your point of view and are entitled to it, Of course the real point is that they fought and died to preserve your right to have those views, I doubt you would do the same for them, They will always be remembered for the selfless sacrifice to ensure the freedoms we now enjoy
     
  7. Storck

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    There are three elements to the meaning of white poppies: they represent remembrance for all victims of war, a commitment to peace and a challenge to attempts to glamorise or celebrate war.
     
  8. Berkshire-bantam

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    Got to say I'm not a fan of either the white ones, or even rarer, the purple ones.

    The poppies have been a symbol or remembrance for years.... I don't know why people feel the need to change that to different meanings.

    I'm not saying that people that have died in other wars don't deserve to be remembered... far from it. But I do not understand the need to change the tradition, if you feel that strongly about it, use another date to wear white poppies as remembrance.

    To me it's like eating waffles on pancake day just to be different.
     
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  9. Rogered Tart

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    Funny you mention the Leicester tragedy because your sentiments mirror my thoughts on that one. Talk about milking every last drop out of it. I know it was a tragic event but the days of remembrance with a respectful one minute silence have been replaced with a media circus and a full weeks schedule of events.
     
  10. Bantam 760

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    Thats not the point,disabled veterans are employed to make them so they should be worn as a mark of respect
     
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    Irish soldiers were royally betrayed by the British on their return home. Britain has behaved very badly towards Ireland for centuries, it's astonishing that McCleans actions should cause such surprise.
     
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  12. trevor

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    By holding the few in recent times who were denounced by both nations as a tragic mistake as a reason for not respecting the 150,000 who joined up and fought and the 50,000 Irish soldiers who although wearing a British uniform were fighting and gave their lives for the freedom of Europe from tyranny and gave him the freedoms he enjoys is pathetic and shows a distinct whiff of a deep seated prejudice and hate of the country he takes a good living from
     
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    Even braced myself on here before posting about Leicester. Is it tragic? Of course it is. He sounded like a damn good bloke but when it comes to stuff like this there is such a display of false emotion. I had to turn off the radio this weekend listening to some of the 'heartfelt' messages of condolences and breast beating by people who a) hadn't heard of the guy before last week and b) will have totally forgotten about the accident already.
     
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    Totally agree some of the stories of the terrible slaughter that happened brought a tear to my eye.
    A local lad who was only16 was given a " white feather" so the kid signed up lying about his age, packing what he needed and went to the front.
    His mother found out wrote a letter to the army and the reply was your son has been killed in action on the first day.
    I could never get into my head what those poor souls thought when the command came to them in the trenches "up and over" knowing there were German machine guns awaiting them, cannon fodder.
    They gave their lives for what we have today.
     
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  15. SimonW

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    I'm not saying don't wear them, just after November they either go in the bin or a drawer and then next year you buy a new one. It's a real waste especially as part of it is plastic and plastic waste is a real issue right now.

    The pins are more are better because even if you do buy another the next year they come in more styles which makes them more collectable. And if you like the initial one you buy you can just keep wearing it and give the money.

    And veterans can still be employed to make and sell pins as well
     
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  16. Nottsy

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    I’d definitely prefer waffles over pancakes.
     
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  17. Berkshire-bantam

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    Pretty sure you missed the point, but panacea all the way;)
     
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  18. abbomf

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    Poor James McClean, how many years does he keep having to give the same valid reason for not wearing one?
     
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  19. SimonW

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    That's a good thing. The paper poppies are so wasteful. If someone is going to buy a poppy they will still donate if the donation buckets are there so we don't really need the whole, buy a poppy, throw it in a drawer, rather than reuse it get pressured into buying another which later goes into the drawer
     
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    The plastic from poppies is an infinitesimal problem, come on!!:brig:

    They were selling them in Asda Shipley tonight, but they didn't have any white ones so they lost out.......
     
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