I totally agree - professional sport is the only place where you can get rewarded for failure - ie getting your contract paid up for being poor at your job.
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They get rewarded and bailed out for failingBriggus, Bronco and Offcomedun like this. -
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Remember when we 'had to let Vaughan go' because he wouldn't have tried if we'd forced him to stay? If their pay was based around staying withing certain parameters that are clearly measurable then that sort of thing would be less within a player's control.
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Based on a formula of 18 wins a season for a mid table side. Then the equation based on 13 players being eligible is 234 getting a £1,000 per game, so a club would on average have to put £234,000 of the £1,500,000 aside for bonuses.
In the last full season, teams got 20+ wins to get into the promotion slots/play offs. So the same formula would mean a club could potentially have to pay out at the very least £260,000 plus. The clubs who got automatic promotion or into the play offs, with extra games, then up to £300,000, or twenty percent of the budget.
Now if the EFL changed its criteria for next season and said that £1,500,000 was for the basic salary and that clubs could reward players with a win bonus employing a pot based on your £1,000 per player, per win, then it may work. Trying to allow for that flexibility within the current cap, would mean around a 20% reduction in the salary range I quoted above, which I think would be unacceptable to many players and for sure the PFA.Brackenrigg and Inspector like this. -
‘The bargaining position of many managers is such that they are able to negotiate favourable severance clauses that provide for much higher compensation then they would be able to recover in a Employment Tribunal claim for unfair dismissal, which would be subject to a statutory cap on a compensation award of £74,200’. https://www.lyonsdavidson.co.uk/ask-football-managers-employment-rights/
‘Hence, when a club sacks a coach, the common situation would be such that, reverting to the contract, the club would pay the manager compensation for its early termination. Such compensation is usually calculated based on the remaining period of the contract, i.e. the earlier the termination, the higher the compensation.
In some cases, managers might not have clauses in their contracts that provide they have a duty to mitigate any loss suffered as a consequence of the termination of their employment. This can lead to a scenario where a sacked manager is paid off, say, the remaining 2 years of their contract then gets another job a short time later, meaning it adds up as something of a windfall’. https://www.sportsscore.co.uk/blog/2017/11/13/legal-fallout-from-managerial-sackingsStorck likes this. -
You cited managers getting sacked, and the information available suggests that they get their salary ‘paid off’.
There is no easy answer.
The only obvious option is to go down the line of ER, which I understand was to pay a reduced basic salary and to have much larger performance bonuses.
Seems somewhat ironic that you are coming up with a similar proposal.Storck likes this. -
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Lastly just a thought, it looks like this is system is in place to hold onto assets before they move higher up the system. with your method its far easier to drop tools to facilitate a move to another club. Wellens a good current example. Salford will have paid compo for him.JonButterfield likes this. -
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Looking at the last point, I guess it is hard to produce an objective formula about performance and wether or not a player is operating at an acceptable level. I would be interested to see how you propose to measure it? Employment law may mean it is difficult to terminate contracts, without some objective measurement. -
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