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  1. How

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    I can’t get my head around it. A manager who took this club from its absolute knees to a League cup final, a Wembley play off win, the play offs of league one and a Fa cup quarter final replay, and we are moaning about his style of play?

    Get a grip. What style of play do we have now?
    I’d take him back in a heartbeat
     
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  2. bantam2708

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    No. Stop looking to the past and move on for christ sake.
     
  3. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    5 points off play off's- sacked.

    20th in div 2 - a year contract.

    Now start understanding why we are in club in a mess in div 2.
     
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  4. Craven Cottager

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    Parky would never return while Rupp owns the club and neither would he take any shit from a 29 year old CEO. In any event, he ain't coming back, so you can all untwist your knickers and put em back on.
    As you were.
     
  5. Aaron Baker

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    That contract extensions is looking like even worse timing now :tired_face:
     
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  6. Captain Grumpy

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    Get him back now, and get this fraud of a manager we’ve just offered an extension to out of the door.
     
  7. Aaron Baker

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    The only one of the old guard who I'd welcome back with open arms.

    At least he bloody achieved something!
     
  8. Bronco

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    Got to admit going to Wembley twice in less than 4 months as a drain on the bank account I'd love the chance of some excitement because at the moment we ain't getting any.
     
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    Would love to know what today’s product is doing to you
     
  10. EdwinB

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    Oh here we go again Let’s bring another one back. Move On !!!!!
     
  11. Craven Cottager

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    Unless he was utterly desperate for a job, I don't know why he'd have any desire to re-do the job he already did almost a decade ago.
     
  13. Ulysses S Grant

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    I can top that. I'd crawl bollock naked over broken glass, just to stick matchsticks into Parkys turds.
     
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  14. Asafa

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    The whole argument about not going back doesn't really hold much water. However, of course there is no guarantee that he would repeat even half the success he had last time. There's also no doubt that his football was 'pragmatic' to put it nicely, particularly in the league. He also had some good fortune at key points (Notts County missing a open goal in rd1 of the League Cup run sticks out to me). He would be remembered very differently if it wasn't for those mega cup runs and it is unlikely that those would be repeated.

    BUT

    We have had 20 managers over the last 20 years. 19 of them have taken us backwards. The only highlight I have in my memory of those 19 was Stu leading us out at Wembley. That's it, a game we lost.
    Phil Parkinson is the only manager who has been able to stop a sinking ship, stabilise it and then deliver consistent league improvements every year for 5 years. That is no small feat and is before I even get on to the cup matches which are by far the greatest memories I have of this club and clinging to those memories is basically the only thing that keeps me coming back, in the hope that it might one day return.
    Sometimes its a case of right person, right club (eg see Eddie Howe). Parky is that man for this club.
    I've not lost all faith in Stu yet, but it is waning fast and I reluctantly type this out of respect for Stu, but we are going backwards and if results do not improve in the very near future and Parky is available and interested I expect the club to take necessary and decisive action. The club should not underestimate how difficult it is going to be drag fans back as restrictions are eased next year, Parkinson would likely fix that overnight

    Bring him home
     
  15. King Cole

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    Not likely. His football bored me to death.
     
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  16. Biker

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    yeah true Fordy, but I bet Parky was on big bucks there and McCall is on sock drawer money. Rhodes penny pinching right to the end.
     
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  17. Keefly Bantam

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    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

    Wasn't this the man who when leaving, allegedly literally emptied out the office and took all current players files with him.

    Since leaving City he has been sacked more times than I have been to @Fordy117@Fordy117 's car wash.

    As for suggestions for him to be a DoF. He and SM are as opposite as you can get and I would not see them working together at all.
     
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  18. King Cole

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    I'd query the view that Stuart is a good coach!
     
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  19. Park bantam

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    If only we could get Parky back
     
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  20. JonButterfield

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    No, I wouldn't go back to Parkinson.

    Look, this isn't rocket science, Stuart McCall is training this Bradford City squad to play a brand of football. It's not working, admittedly, but the team is particularly poor and it is likely very, very cheap, in line with his 2009 squad. It doesn't mean the style CAN'T work, and it doesn't mean we should press the reset button.

    What is the point in continually undoing all of the work the previous manager has done by going a full 180 in terms of style?

    If Gary Bowyer was manager and his neck was on the chopping board, by all means - sign Parkinson. He's not going to achieve what he did before, but he will eventually produce a similar style of football by culling the kids and hiring seasoned veterans with the 'don't ask questions, just got stuck in' mentality. Don't cry when he releases Reece Staunton and tells you that Cooke and Watt are no good. They aren't Parkinson players, and the fact they're the best we've got speaks volumes about why we cannot revert to that type.

    The pathetic mismanagement of this club has seen us flip-flop to absolute failure, and it cannot continue. I am sure Sparks can handle the books and appease opposition directors and do a reasonable job at speaking to 'Supporters Groups' who are only half-listening, hence he's the CEO - but he has to be able to see the bigger picture, and while his decision to extend the contracts of Stuart and Black is baffling (in the least), the obvious aim is CONTINUITY.

    At this stage, it appears Ryan has no idea how to achieve that, but he's at least bought himself a little time so that he doesn't have to make a snap decision as crucial as appointing a new manager. I reiterate what I said earlier, I think it's hugely unlikely McCall and/or Black will demand compensation, so it's probably not a mistake on financial terms even if they do depart.

    Ryan now needs to draw up a shortlist of managers that MAKE SENSE as a replacement for Stuart. Parkinson will, and should, not be on that list, unless we're going to gamble on him getting it right straight away like he did last time, even though he hasn't been able to elsewhere. Once he's done that, he needs to put in place an off-field team that will be in place for the next decade, and is of the highest calibre. He needs to surround himself with the best of the best.

    It's lovely that Wetherby Whaler says he was also thrust into a similar position and he succeeded, but this is not an ordinary business, it's football. It's micro-analysed, hyper-intense, extreme-pressure. There's a good reason for that - if you're not competent and you fail, you potentially bankrupt a club that is over a hundred years old with fervent support. Passionate, angry, loving, fearful people. Emotional people. Rahic failed badly in almost every aspect. Rhodes was nowhere close to salvaging the situation. He's passed the buck on to Ryan at the worst possible time, when we're literally on the brink of the precipice.

    I'm not interested in hearing how brave Ryan is for taking on the job - Rahic was even more brave for leaving home and relocating abroad. Who gives a shit? Rahic put years of planning into this, and get a backer of real financial might. Who cares? He failed miserably.

    Ryan bought himself a very small amount of time with a defiant decision, now he has to use that time wisely. He could have only 6 months left as an EFL club CEO. This club itself might have only 6 months left TOTAL if we go down. If it's looking more and more likely, he has to wield the axe, but he MUST know what he's doing. The last ding-dong we had in charge thought Grayson was a good replacement for McCall. He wasn't, because he simply could not work with what McCall had constructed despite his previous accomplishments.

    Make no bones about it... if we're still struggling come February, this is the BIGGEST decision in the history of Bradford City AFC, and we have the least experienced man in football making that call.
     
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