Morning @Fordy117
Firstly congratulations on having an £80k car.
In terms of no backbone, i have spent 11 months writing articles highlighting the poor leadership of Edin Rahic and criticising his actions. I've also sat face to face with him and argued my points.
You meanwhile sit behind a username on a message board, so excuse me for not being interested in your moral lecturing.
In terms of the club, as i say my disapproval of Edin is very clear. However, the arrival of Julian Rhodes gives me hope about the club. Ive spoken to Julian a few times this week and I'm confident he is in charge, calling the shots. Edin is not at the helm, and in all likelihood is finished.
In view of this I believe we now have to think beyond just getting Edin out and the long term future of the club. As you rightly allude to the club is not in good shape, and relegation would be a huge setback. So i think as a fans it would help to support Julian and the team in somehow surviving. Yes it is looking very difficult, but there are 29 games to go.
At some point we have to rebuild the club post Rahic. I would rather we do that from League One not League Two.
Nothing gets Rahic off the hook. He can hide and should do for now. But Rhodes at least has a grip on things now. Personally i am going to support him and him only.
If Valley Parade is packed out for the Oxford game due to a Rhodes initiative it will embarass Edin even more.
Jason
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Let's cut to the chase. As far as I'm concerned, these are the key quotes in that article, with the most important bits highlighted in red.:
Therefore, given who has put their name to this article, I have no doubt as to its accuracy.
The bottom line has to be that Stefan Rupp has acted and, effectively, sidelined Edin Rahic. Hopefully, this is a permanent change and Edin will now be little more than a sideshow that will, in time, disappear into the mists of time.
The key now seems to be as to whether or not Stefan Rupp will back Julian, and David Hopkin, to try and turn this around.
I still support the flyover; the message must be absolutely clear, that Edin must never again be allowed to carry any influence in the corridors of Valley Parade.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Old city man, Mal Content, bantamdave41 and 11 others like this. -
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If as an advisor,Rhodes has openly said he is in charge of making team decisions and being the appointment DH has asked for, then either Rahic has finally let go of the reins or there will be a backlash.
I agree we must now support the team to help Rhodes turn things round.RCarol, Craven Koppite, CT Bantam and 4 others like this. -
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In your opening paragraph in relation to JR coming on board in a new role, you say
"Instead there was the shock news of Julian Rhodes’ return to help out the club. Crucially working alongside, rather than instead of, Rahic."
That suggests to me that Rahic and JR are working together in some capacity.
Later in your article you say something which contradicts that very point ..
"Based on what Rhodes has said to us, we’re confident and reassured that it is he, not Rahic, calling the shots"
I find those two statements contradictory. Can you explain how you arrived at such a different interpretation of the new Rahic-JR relationship and how you now understand the day-to-day decision making at VP?
I raised the same issue earlier in this thread but have yet to have had any insight into their new relationshipRcbantam, How, Disillusioned of Bingley and 4 others like this. -
First of all, I have not said I want more from fans. And in the article I made the point several times, in agreement with you, that fans have been magnificent in supporting the team. Is the atmosphere as good as it was under the Parky years? No, but it has been great. The key word is ‘focus’ that I used. I said I think we should focus on helping the team avoid relegation.
You say “start supporting the fans” but this absolutely flawed. Open your eyes, do you really think everyone is sat in agreement on things? What you mean is I should be supporting fans who share your view. That is a big difference. I’ve looked around at all the social media sites and whilst as ever there is not universal agreement the majority of fans do seem to agree we should help the team in their incredibly difficult task of avoiding relegation. And that as even though they dislike Edin as much as you do, there is hope that Julian is now in charge. The SC1903 have dropped plans for a protest at the Oxford game for this very reason.
So saying WOAP is not supporting the fans is a baseless accusation that simply doesn’t stack up.
If we all we do is focus on driving Edin out with pitch forks, the danger is the damage it does to the football club that could have long and lasting consequences. We could not only be relegated but on our knees financially. And it might be incredibly difficult to recover. Now fine, doing that gets rid of Edin. But what about the next 5-10 years? Or do we just accept being a shell of a football club?
I believe Edin’s days are numbered and that he will leave in the not too distant future anyway. I would be amazed if he was still here next season. So I just think we should be focusing on life beyond Edin and the state of the football club. Imagine we can stay up this season, and start next year, in League One, without Edin anywhere near the club? Is that a bit more short-term pain?
If you don’t want to believe JR’s return makes a difference that’s your prerogative. But after speaking to him he is doing everything he can to rescue this situation and stop us going down this horrible dark path. As you say, the club you love is in trouble. I share your loathing for Edin, so why not get behind someone who is actually trying to fix it?
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Reassuring that he seems to believe JR is very much in control. I know some will say that it's not enough but it's pretty obvious the club isn't going to be sold overnight so survival has to be everyone's main objective at the minute. I'm not convinced there's any way back now but as the saying goes, it's not over til it's over.
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For those who believe that Rahic is no longer actively involved at the club, how do you reconcile your view with Jason's comment in the opening para of the WOAP article? Jason writes in respect of JR's new role 'Crucially working alongside, rather than instead of, Rahic'. That's rather unequivocal on Jason's part. As somebody else commented earlier, Jason's comment is more in line with JR acting as a mentor to Rahic and not that Rahic has been sidelined.
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Might be my styling not making it clear. Has Edin disappeared? No. So he is at the club alongside Julian. But who is steering the wheel and making decisions? My understanding is it is Julian.Onside, broadsword, Offside and 2 others like this. -
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Good article.
I will make the effort on the 24th. It is clear that JR is having an influence and I think he and DH deserve our support. Something needs to kick start our season.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...vladimir, Pineapple Salesman, Nick_W_ and 1 other person like this. -
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So what we are saying is that a consultant albeit JR has taken over the roll of Director/ Shareholder
and will be running things instead whilst the Director/Shareholder (without input) is still about and accepting this
Seems very strange particularly with the strength of character and beliefs of said Director/Shareholder
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I am not convinced that if he remains, he is the sort who can stay out of the way. I'd be happier if he was bought out by Rupp and left entirely.Mal Content, JudgeMental and Bronco like this.
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