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New Coach - Michael Collins

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Nick_W_, Jun 18, 2018.

  1. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    And by the way, there’s a massive context differ nice between us and Blackburn - they had Dack and Graham, plus many others.
     
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  2. Tolly856

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    It really depends on how versatile Payne is. Is his game limited to playing just behind the striker/s or can he genuinely provide an extra body in the centre whilst having the ability to get forward? If it's the latter, then our captain Josh Wright is the limiting factor.
     
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  3. JonButterfield

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    I've seen nothing to suggest Payne is a must-start just yet.

    'Pedigree' is rhetoric. It doesn't mean anything. Performances and effectiveness. That's what counts.

    We'll see, but right now I would not shoe horn him into the team by playing a formation that doesn't suit our main danger man, Doyle.
     
  4. Tolly856

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    How did you conclude that Doyle is our danger man if pedigree is rhetoric?
     
  5. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    Payne was excellent at Shrewsbury.

    Leaving systems aside I think we’ve recruited well - though we need a couple more.

    However, if the idea is that we’re completely committed to playing 343, I’d say we’ve not recruited as well as many think. And I still think it’s a formation unlikely to work at this level unless you throw huge wedges of cash at it.
     
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  6. RonnieBrown

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    So ............ After two games in - and only forty four to go - Let's take due stock, huh ?

    Collins knows sod all, right ?
    Todays update ............................................

    Rangers and Gerrard may be above Celtic at the moment, but only fourth in the table.
    Lampard and Derby are mid table, just like City ............ On Just three points. :eek:
    Barton and Fleetwood are also on just three points. :confused:

    Let's get real.

    The dust from Saturday has now settled. Time for some honest reflection - from us all !
    Most of us posted before a ball was kicked, that the time to judge was late September, or 10 games in.
    Just because you may see a solitary Butterfly in early March, does not signal the arrival of Spring. Just as a Hail storm in July does not indicate Winter is just around the corner.

    It's early days and freaks occur. Let's make sure we don't have many freaks on Bantams Talk, huh ? ;)
     
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  7. Norman Corner

    Norman Corner Fringe Player

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    Oooohhh nice spot young man!
     
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    RonnieBrown Emergency Backup

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    Yep ........ Good spot indeed - I missed it ! :D
     
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  9. JonButterfield

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    You're confusing pedigree with hard statistical fact, which can be analysed.
     
  10. Tolly856

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    The hard statistical fact you are reffering to is his pedigree. You're not using his performances in a City shirt to justify his 'danger man' tag, you're using his succesful track record which is partly what others are doing with Payne. He also scored the winning goal vs Shrewsbury and (apparently) played a blinder, so I think he has a lot going for him.
     
  11. Ulysses S Grant

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    Disagree Ron. That move was about the first time they got into our box. Pedantic I know. But what the hell
     
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    Not pedantic at all, U S G. ;)
    Although Barnsley didn't threaten our goal area initially - they certainly broke up OUR attempts easily, and broke away quickly, thus suggesting a threat.
    But Ho - we move on, huh ?
    Here's hoping for a much improved performance tonight ? :)
     
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  13. Just Looking

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    Obviously it’s just the cup and a few fringe players involved, but notice Collins has gone for 4 at the back tonight.

    I actually thought he may stick with 3 to see if the system works, but I’m now thinking he’s realised 3 isn’t working. (If he has realised that it’s taken him just 2 matches, whereas took “more qualified” Grayson many more).
     
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    What is this pedigree then?
     
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    Not sure Chum :)
     
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    Don't know bit we need some decent pedigree in the side chum to Winalot of games
     
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  17. Tolly856

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    Have a look. He's a proven goalscoring midfielder. How many are there at this level?
     
  18. Tolly856

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    Don't say Luca Colville!
     
  19. heavensentcitygent

    heavensentcitygent we do not forgive we do not forget

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    IMO a squad overhauled completely in the summer needs and experienced coach to help them get , I’m sure he’s a great coach but he’s a novice without a mentor
     
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    Listening to his post match interview, he s a damn good spin doctor
     
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