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  1. Tony Wilkinson

    Tony Wilkinson Squad Player
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    Woah........just have another look at who the OP is.......
     
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  2. Dennis

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    A well managed club shouldn't be relying on picking up the scraps in the free agent pool or if you like the leftovers after everybody else has taken those they want. Our recruitment wasn't as good as it should have been over the summer and left the squad susceptible to injuries in key positions. And now that has come home to bite us. It's just a repeat of last summer's recruitment.

    Now with a new coach who has started to see the quality of our squad, he is left with no alternative other than to consider free agents if he feels he needs to recruit. It isn't part of some master plan; it's a consequence of getting things wrong over the summer on both the playing and coaching side.
     
  3. bantamlad92

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    Ignore this thread guys, the original poster has no credibility or inside knowledge.
     
  4. Faithful Bantam

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    A half fit, 35 year old Karl Henry would still be an upgrade on Josh Shite.
     
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  5. Just Looking

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    So outside of the transfer window, who exactly would you expect to us to sign?
     
  6. Edinmiarse

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    I don't. Should all have been done by the time the window had closed. I'm not against bringing in a free agent or two if injuries/suspensions are such that the squad is down to the bare bones. This is more a reflection of poor recruitment during the summer, simple as.
     
  7. Rogered Tart

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    Wouldn't it have been better to sign a player like this in say, the summer? You know, so our midfield would have a player of experience and higher level accumen. And maybe, just maybe, we could have recruited Hopkin at the beginning of this summer period, because, well, he was available and looking for a job. And you know, this could have given our new manager an experienced quality midfielder, whilst our new manager/head coach would have had all summer to give his input into the players he wanted to work with and mould these players into the unit he wanted. Pretty basic football club ownership really.
     
  8. Dennis

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    Most would agree that there have been some good recruits over the summer but that isn't the point. It's the squad which is the issue. It isn't big enough; it lacks cover in key positions and the there isn't sufficient depth of quality. All of that was recognised by some on here before a ball was even kicked. And we went into the season with those shortfalls in the squad and with an inexperienced rookie coach with no pro football experience in charge of this squad. I place nearly all of that at the feet of the owner who appointed Collins even when he hadn't applied for the job.

    Here's a link to a post which shows how squads can be so susceptible to injuries especially to those in key positions...

    https://bantamtalk.com/index.php?threads/josh-wright-new-city-captain.795/page-2#post-76962

    Football is a contact sport and injuries do happen. What has happened to us is not that unusual over a season. But somebody at our club has chosen not to have cover for such an eventuality. I wonder who?

    Nobody is suggesting it is fun to deride the club as you suggest. It is painful to do so for many fans and your comment is insulting to many such fans. But then there are always those who are so blind because they choose not to see!
     
  9. Onside

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    You are not a Bradford City fan, so stop posting as if you are! The very fact that we are having to go into the free players market is a telling inditement of our recruitment!
     
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  10. Dennis

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    And PP having a conditioning coach of the quality of Nick Allenby working with the coaching team!

    Allenby's replacement (Lossau) under SM lasted for a couple of months then returned to Germany. He came back in the summer on a short term basis for a month to help MC in preparing the team before leaving again to go to S Korea and now we've just recruited his replacement, Ben Nicholson. It's hardly the professional way to maintain the performance condition of a professional squad!
     
  11. Onside

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    I agree. I was ready to give them until October to settle in, but it was the first time I had seen them yesterday albeit on screen. We sort of grew into the game after a very shaky start, but we had loads of luck during that period. We find ourselves 2-0 up, and I was saying hold it, just defend really well and we can take this. We seemed to just fall back or maybe we just run out of steam and we caved within a period of 10 mins. Could be fitness or lack of confidence or a combination.

    What I wasn’t prepared for was such a debacle. I have a lot of faith in Hoppy, but he really has his work cut out for him. Basically as others have said he has to try and put some fitness into those lads, at the same time as find a system they feel they can play, all pre season stuff, and gain points. I hope he is on a top bonus because if he can steer us away from relegation he will my heart felt thanks.

    We are completely unpredictable as a club now. No idea what we stand for, who we are, where we are going. So yes I would welcome a straight talking statement to the fans. I don’t want apologies, I want to know how they are going to rectify this massive debacle.
     
  12. Faithful Bantam

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    Our recruitment has been so impressive we’ve had our worst points start after 7 games season since our PL relegation season and are now 9/4 to be relegated.

    We’ve signed 18 players, of which about 4 are good. Another couple who we though would be good but haven’t now shown it yet, and the rest who’re either crap or not developed enough to play league one football yet.

    Too much youth, too big a squad, not enough quality and glaring holes in key positions.

    For you to think the recruitment was good is laughable.

    We needed at least 3-4 more quality, proven players.
     
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  13. Dennis

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    Don't misrepresent or twist what I said!

    Hopkin has no alternative to bring in free agents because that's the only route that is available to us. The important message is that we as a club should not be in that position. We should have recruited a bigger and better squad in the summer.
     
  14. Rogered Tart

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    He was poor yesterday, the five at the back hindered the defence rather than help it. At times they had two upfront yet had space against a five. How does that work? People thinking its just a case of a tweek here and there are utterly clueless. Its a worse start to a season i can remember, the two wins we have could easily have been opposition wins. I remember as the bad run started last season people were saying its alright we're still in the playoffs but anyone with a brain knew the writing was on the wall and we ended up mid table. This has that same feel about it, still some on here saying its alright new coach now, the results will come. Well at this moment i can't see where the next win is coming from, in truth yesterday, apart from the goals their keeper had absolutely nothing to do where ours was like Custers last stand. We were battered yesterday.

    Each game now is very significant, we don't start picking up wins quickly and we find ourselves in the bottom four with a team relying on inexperienced youngsters and with zero confidence. We aren't that nailed on playoff team anymore, Edin has seen to that, we are now with the other bottom feeders scrapping the arse end of the barrel. Good luck Hopkin cos you're gonna need it. In spades.
     
  15. Johnny Yen

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    You being one of them
     
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  16. Mike Hunt

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    @Just Looking@Just Looking What is your role at Valley Parade? I don’t think I’ve seen such myopic nonsense.
     
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  17. Ricky

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    Whether you agree or like @south york bantams@south york bantams post apparently it is true that we may have one or two free agents training with us at some point this week. Doesn't mean we will sign them and I don't know if any player is Karl Henry though.
     
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  18. Ricky

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    I did and i apologise I just don't get why fans complain at such signings. What's wrong with signing a odd one or two players that are free agents, isn't that the same as someone who is out of contract in the summer.
     
  19. Dennis

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    I have a slightly different view of the development squad. I support the concept but not the way it is being implemented. It will need investment to get it started and further investment for several years before it starts to produce the results. It can't be done on the cheap. It's worked reasonably well for Barnsley and Huddersfield but their owners were willing to invest their own money in their dev squads until the conveyor belt was working. Our owners want the results but without using their own money to get it going. Trying to do it on the cheap will weaken the first team squad (as we've found) and I now expect it to quietly go the same way as the Archie Christie experiment from all those years ago.
     
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  20. Onside

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    I will explain. This is a fan who is angry and upset at the club. He doesn’t have to come up with a solution, he is a fan expressing his discontentment at our demise.
     
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