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McCall IN/OUT (with new Poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rcbantam, Sep 15, 2020.

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McCall - Should he stay or should he go now?

Poll closed Dec 13, 2020.
  1. Stay

    50 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Go

    128 vote(s)
    64.0%
  3. Uncertain

    22 vote(s)
    11.0%
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  1. Tony Wilkinson

    Tony Wilkinson Squad Player
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    I've looked this up it's called Bowyer syndrome, it's the only technical manual available to Bradford City managers...
     
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  2. Zubair

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    Macall will get sacked if city lose more games.
     
  3. Storck

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    Looking at the voting I don’t think the result has actually changed anyone’s vote, just a load of extra people have voted to sack him
     
  4. How

    How Knows Football
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    I honestly think bowyer was better
     
  5. bantamdave41

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    He stays for me. He wasn't the right candidate back in February but the decision was made.

    I honestly see nothing more in this season than mid table, possibly lower upper half.

    Until we get drive, a plan and an owner whom wants to be here, its hard to see us not treading water, so swapping the manager just feels like another chapter of the Bradford City merry go round.
     
  6. Melbourne Bantam

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    That's how it works...
     
  7. Biker

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    Ive said it before we urgently need a hard man in midfield, a leader. Stuarts biggest mistake is yet again signing poor players.

    He has had his chances now and needs to do punditry or coaching , he is not up to recruiting or managing a team, out of his depth.
     
  8. Tyneside

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    The old swapping manager every 10 minutes syndrome. Has worked really well hasn’t it??

    Have a manager, let him choose a few players that he has to try and settle into a team that’s already got a dozen players in that you’ve inherited from the previous incumbent who you can’t shift on......and repeat....and repeat.....and repeat.


    Doesn’t work.
     
  9. Tolly856

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    Not a surprise when the ones we appoint are generally really fking shit.

    We need continuity but only with the right man in charge.
     
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  10. bantam2708

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    As others have said, unless there's a danger of us going down, let him see out his contract. A change of manager right now would achieve nothing. This squad has so many gaping holes in it that even Klopp wouldn't be able to get a tune out of it.

    Come the summer, thankfully most players/staff are out of contract and it'll be time for a rebuild (again) but hopefully this time it will be overseen by somebody who knows what they're doing.
     
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  11. Tyneside

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    People have short memories....

    Parkinson was under pressure during his first season, let’s not forget some of the performances in his first few months were abysmal. That didn’t turn out too bad.

    The problem with football it’s all about here and now. Win a game and people are happy, lose and there’s a witch hunt. Social media doesn’t help either. Even boards like this one have their moments (I’m guilty too sometimes when I’m pissed off after a game). In no other business would a manager be given 9 months to try and turn around something that wasn’t working. It just wouldn’t happen.
     
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  12. Bantam 760

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    I think most of us were underwhelmed when Mccall took over and it's up to him to prove us wrong and there's nothing to suggest this so far
     
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  13. Tolly856

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    Parkinson not only inherited one of the worst city squads I can remember but did so after the transfer window had shut. Completely different to McCall who has now had several months to plan, recruit and shape his own squad.

    Already McCall has blasted the fans In his post match interviews, made some ridiculous statements about how he recruits from an IPad and thought Gareth Evans was a striker ( :joy: :joy:)and is backing up his nonsense with bizzare team selections and constant, needless tinkering.

    Are fans fickle? Absolutely. But what do we do with a manger who’s clearly out of his depth? Keep him for the sake of continuity?
     
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  14. trevor

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    I never wanted him and he will go eventually for one reason only, He never learns from his mistakes and if you look over his time as a manager he has done the same tinkering of players and formations changing depending on the threat he sees from oppositions he worries about, It shows either stubbornness or that he does not really understand what he is doing, Here is a tip Stuart to avoid losing your job again, Pick a system you think suits the players you have and stick with it, Pick the best players in their natural positions within that system, Give them a chance to settle apart from injuries, After fitness drill the players playing practice games using the system day after day, It is the only way out from where you are otherwise I fear you will be back on the dole come Christmas
     
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  15. Fordy117

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    Not sure doing this works.

    So, lets say we finish 16th. Meaning that we gone from going down to finishing 9th to finishing 16th. Now why would a decent player with ambition want to join Bradford? People are turning off from getting Ifollow already and it will be tough to get people back next season. Also a new manager will have look at the squad and decide what's what the sooner he can do that the better.

    Managers get judged on results and it shouldn't change because a contract ends at the end of the season. Finishing bottom half will be a massive problem for the club long term.
     
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    Our worry when McCall came back was his achilles heel of constantly worrying about the opposition thus tinkering with team formation and he hasn't let us down in that respect. Parkys success was built on a system and players brought in to fit that. It might not have been pretty but it was effective.
     
  17. Aaron Baker

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    He was but there's a difference.

    He inherited a terrible squad and even outside of the transfer window brought in players like Andrew Daview and Kyle Reid, got Nahki from being 5th choice striker under Jacko to be the absolute star that he turned out to be and turned Luke Oliver from a joke to a very solid centre half.

    What is McCall's equivalent progress that we can look at and go "yeah, that's a good sign"?
     
  18. Rcbantam

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    And employing the same crap manager for a 3rd TIME isn't working either. The same crap manger that's been in the game for 40 years and still hasn't a clue how to be a manager
     
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  19. trevor

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    When you have top players you can chop and change as the players are good enough to understand and play different systems, Here at the bottom end of football the players are of limited ability and understanding of the game, Thus you have to pick a simple system and drill them accordingly, Do this with a super fit squad and the wins will come, It seems like McCall is expecting quantum physics qualities from a third year woodwork class
     
  20. bantam2708

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    Very valid points.

    The way I see it is that this summer is the perfect chance for a clean slate. New CEO with the manager and most of the squad out of contract. Its the perfect time for a proper rebuild and cultural reset of this club from top to bottom.

    This squad as it stands is not good enough individually or collectively to go up and I'd be surprised if any manager could manage it. So to sack McCall and hire another Grayson for example, would be a waste of money and fruitless exercise. So for me, yes we will be losing the interest of some supporters without a doubt and that is a massive problem, but I don't think a change in manager would make any difference whilst we have players who are simply not anywhere near good enough.
     
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