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Most liked posts in thread: Mason Greenwood - a disgrace

  1. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    Possibly. But the inference from the alleged victim's father would indicate that she's still in a relationship with him, so who knows!
     
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  2. Storck

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    Wonder if Man Utd will cut their loses and sack him or wait and see whilst paying him
     
  3. Storck

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    Currently but she could sue at any point
     
  4. Storck

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    Is he a £100m asset now?
     
  5. bantamlad92

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    He'll never play football again, and rightly so.

    Anybody even remotely suggesting it may have been taken 'out of context' or has been 'misinterpreted as a roleplay' must have some seriously, seriously questionable morals closely akin to these "incel" types who hate women. There's absolutely no rationale behind the clearly evident audio other than Mason is a misogynistic coward of a human (I won't say man, because he's far from a man).
     
  6. JonButterfield

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    He'll never play football without controversy again.

    But I'm almost certain he'll play, and get silly money too.
     
  7. bantamlad92

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    Nah you’re wrong, he won’t play.
     
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    All charges dropped.
     
  9. Park bantam

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    Key witness withdraws allegations. Hmm money talks
     
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    Exactly that. We all heard the sickening evidence of his actions. We saw the social media posts. He's guilty and the only clubs that would take him now are in the middle east.
     
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    It does but there are some bits in the police statement that seem to hint at “discoveries”, the sorts of things that might make prosecution impossible. Who knows?
    The thing is now, does it all get forgotten about and he gets to pick up the pieces? (I believe he is now legally innocent).
     
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    He's still a POS but I'm interested to see what Man Utd do from here. Surely he can't join the squad again as that would be the worst PR for the club with sponsors etc plus trying to sell the club. The only option seems to be in a foreign country
     
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    I think he’ll play again at a high level. Not sure at Man Utd, but as you say, he’s legally innocent. The girl who dropped all charges will be all over the press selling her side of the story, trying to get some credibility back, because for sure, she’s done more harm for rape cases than good,
     
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    Mendy and Greenwood won't play in the premier league again. Who knows if one trial outcome had a direct effect on the other not going to trial?

    These after all are multimillionaire footballers with the best defence lawyers money can buy.

    Some clubs have no morals and really don't care, it wouldn't surprise me to see these playing for clubs somewhere on the fringes of Europe or in the middle east.
     
  15. Park bantam

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    Presumably has he hasn’t been found guilty of anything United will have to pay his contract up
     
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    The problem is what exactly did you hear? You heard a tiny part of an audio note that had audio both before and after the clip. The part we heard sure had him trying to pressure her into sex which is a dick move but cut off before the crime he is accused of potentially happens. What is on both sides of the clip, especially after the clip can make a massive difference.

    And the visual evidence are also problematic for drawing a conclusion because we don’t know the actual context from them. Especially as almost right away her dad said she didn’t post them and that she was hacked. For example most of us probably have pictures of bruises/injuries on our phones and an implied context could change how people take those photos.

    It's why even if he is guilty and she did actually release the evidence rather than being hacked releasing the evidence this way is problematic. When you publicly release the evidence rather than going to the police and especially when don’t release it in the raw format it makes it a trail by public opinion and that public opinion happening without all the evidence being available to people, for there to be no verifiable context to the evidence and for no ability for a right of reply.

    In many ways there is a need for the police/cps to really fully explain why it was dropped rather than vague witness withdrawing their statements and new evidence coming to light because everything else has been so public and if there has been something significant that has caused it seems fairer than have people keep basing an opinion on evidence that may not be accurate
     
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    Yep, only place he'll be welcome is countries where oppression of women is the norm, e.g the middle east / strict islamic countries. Wouldn't surprise me to see him teaming up with CR7 again.
     
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    It seems everyone has an opinion on this particular case based on just two things. An audio clip and some photos of bruising to various parts of the body of someone and a cut lip that has been made to look like a burst artery. Something from the very beginning didn't add up. What I did and still do find fascinating is the reaction on social media to what potentially was a very serious crime. A large number of United 'fans' voiced there displeasure at the loss of Greenwood, stating they didn't care what Mason had done, they were more worried about missing his goals than a possible domestic abuse victim. We still have a massive problem in this country, more so from other parts of the world, where a woman is seen as.a second class citizen, a plaything for men to do with as they wish as the Bernard Mendy case has shown.
     
  19. Faithful Bantam

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    Yeah, the whole things f*****d up, in at least one way or another. The problem with cases like this, particularly where it involves someone famous, is the extent to which the accused loses any right to anonymity or privacy. So, if proceedings go ahead, or even if there's a legal case and they're found not guilty, their image and reputation will be forever tarnished in the eyes of some.

    In this case, at either extreme its a case of a a scumbag having done some reprehensible things and gotten away with it, or he's the victim of something falsified/misrepresented and will have his life and career irreparably damaged. And its amazing how many people seem to have a better view of things than the CPS who've spent a year investigating the thing. The other curious bit is the way in which people have latched on the part of the CPS statement that refers to 'key witnesses withdrawing' (and assumed that's through either fear or bribery) but don't seem to have picked up reference to 'new material coming to light'.
     
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  20. Faithful Bantam

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    I share that sentiment of detest when it comes to domestic violence. Equally, there are plenty of cases of falsified claims to exploit or be vengeful against others, with high profile men being a particular target for such.
     
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