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Mason Greenwood - a disgrace

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Sergio Pinto III, Jan 30, 2022.

  1. TallinnBantam

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    What do we think will happen - he’ll get suspended from football until there’s an outcome of sorts? Could take a while.

    If true, that’s the end of his career.
    If she’s making it up, that’s probably still the end of his career. At the top level at least.
     
  2. Faithful Bantam

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    Possibly. But the inference from the alleged victim's father would indicate that she's still in a relationship with him, so who knows!
     
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    Wonder if Man Utd will cut their loses and sack him or wait and see whilst paying him
     
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    Currently but she could sue at any point
     
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    It's going to cost them a wedge, either way. They'll have to write off a £100m asset, or if they're seen to be soft, then sponsors will likely walk away which could cost more.
     
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    Is he a £100m asset now?
     
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    The trouble for Greenwood is everybody has heard the tape. So whether he is guilty or not that is going to stay with him. He deserves whatever he gets
     
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    Not after this, but he'll be in that range in terms of what he's shown as on their balance sheet.
     
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    He'll never play football again, and rightly so.

    Anybody even remotely suggesting it may have been taken 'out of context' or has been 'misinterpreted as a roleplay' must have some seriously, seriously questionable morals closely akin to these "incel" types who hate women. There's absolutely no rationale behind the clearly evident audio other than Mason is a misogynistic coward of a human (I won't say man, because he's far from a man).
     
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    He'll never play football without controversy again.

    But I'm almost certain he'll play, and get silly money too.
     
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    Nah you’re wrong, he won’t play.
     
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    All charges dropped.
     
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    Key witness withdraws allegations. Hmm money talks
     
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    Exactly that. We all heard the sickening evidence of his actions. We saw the social media posts. He's guilty and the only clubs that would take him now are in the middle east.
     
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    It does but there are some bits in the police statement that seem to hint at “discoveries”, the sorts of things that might make prosecution impossible. Who knows?
    The thing is now, does it all get forgotten about and he gets to pick up the pieces? (I believe he is now legally innocent).
     
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    He's still a POS but I'm interested to see what Man Utd do from here. Surely he can't join the squad again as that would be the worst PR for the club with sponsors etc plus trying to sell the club. The only option seems to be in a foreign country
     
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    I think he’ll play again at a high level. Not sure at Man Utd, but as you say, he’s legally innocent. The girl who dropped all charges will be all over the press selling her side of the story, trying to get some credibility back, because for sure, she’s done more harm for rape cases than good,
     
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    Mendy and Greenwood won't play in the premier league again. Who knows if one trial outcome had a direct effect on the other not going to trial?

    These after all are multimillionaire footballers with the best defence lawyers money can buy.

    Some clubs have no morals and really don't care, it wouldn't surprise me to see these playing for clubs somewhere on the fringes of Europe or in the middle east.
     
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    Presumably has he hasn’t been found guilty of anything United will have to pay his contract up
     
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    The problem is what exactly did you hear? You heard a tiny part of an audio note that had audio both before and after the clip. The part we heard sure had him trying to pressure her into sex which is a dick move but cut off before the crime he is accused of potentially happens. What is on both sides of the clip, especially after the clip can make a massive difference.

    And the visual evidence are also problematic for drawing a conclusion because we don’t know the actual context from them. Especially as almost right away her dad said she didn’t post them and that she was hacked. For example most of us probably have pictures of bruises/injuries on our phones and an implied context could change how people take those photos.

    It's why even if he is guilty and she did actually release the evidence rather than being hacked releasing the evidence this way is problematic. When you publicly release the evidence rather than going to the police and especially when don’t release it in the raw format it makes it a trail by public opinion and that public opinion happening without all the evidence being available to people, for there to be no verifiable context to the evidence and for no ability for a right of reply.

    In many ways there is a need for the police/cps to really fully explain why it was dropped rather than vague witness withdrawing their statements and new evidence coming to light because everything else has been so public and if there has been something significant that has caused it seems fairer than have people keep basing an opinion on evidence that may not be accurate
     
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