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  1. Aaron Baker

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    You talk utter bollocks.
     
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  2. Damo

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    I do also get uncomfortable with these point scoring comments. Its virtually turned into any criticism of the government's actions is classed as point scoring.
     
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  3. Damo

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    true, but that point aside, kids are still starving. You don't punish kids because their parents are incapable. There are lots of other social reasons going on here which create that situation in the first place
     
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  4. Aaron Baker

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    Well, lets start with the main point. My children are my responsibility and I always want that to be the case. The same therefore applies for all (or as close to 'all' as possible) parents who chose to have children.

    In the minority of cases where they are truly vulnerable - and I mean truly - then they become the states issue but they should become the states issue 100% of the time not just between the hours of 9 and 3. That's based on safety more than anything.

    I don't want the state to start being responsible for cooking meals and putting them on the table. It's the exact sort of governmental interference that I don't want. Feeding your own kids in the most basic of individual parental responsibility.
     
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    Feeding your own kids in the most basic of individual parental responsibility

    Yes it is and most parents do their parental duty without fuss or fanfare. A bit of extra money would always be welcome but they'd get by without it as they always have. I agree that the most vulnerable children need more support. We know how the kids will end up if they don't get the support so to invest in them now is investing in the future of the whole community.
     
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  6. Steve1970

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    You're imagination knows no boundaries you are comedy gold.
     
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    Lord Fordy, set the dogs on them what!
     
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    Boris has made a lot of mistakes throughout this pandemic, and most of these mistakes would have been made by any party in government having to cope with the pressures and stress that comes with having to deal with the pandemic.
    Comments like wrong action taken, right action taken but not taken soon enough or public not given enough notice. Easy for opposition to come up with these criticisms when you are not in power yourself.
    The one thing Boris got right (and I am no fan of the guy) was when he talked about Colonel Hindsight and his regiment of snipers.
     
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    It's only 13 weeks holiday, how dare you!
     
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    Plus still getting a subsidised meal and drinks every day in the Houses of Parliament. Just why?
     
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    My view on this may not be popular with some people but here it is anyway. First of all I think Marcus Rashford's mother has done a marvellous job bringing him up and instilling such strong values in him, well done girl.
    Now on a more controversial note. I think the Government should have extended the scheme as he asked them to. Along side that I think that schools should be promoting old fashioned family values and how children should be brought up by both parents. That wouldn't go down well though and it would also end up making some kids feeling stigmatized.
    There's no easy answer I'm afraid.
     
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    Matt Hancock said earlier today that the PM had discussed the school meal situation with Marcus Rashford only recently. Rashford has denied this and said the last time he and the PM spoke was in June. It's a poor state of affairs and says much about our Govt when most people believe Rashford's version of events rather than the word of the Prime Minister or a Secretary of State.
     
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    It's ridiculous, I'm gonna campaign for free digestive biscuits for pensioners...
     
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    Look at this absolute disgrace of a human being.

    The utter plonker has a chance on national television to regain a bit of humanity and say "Look, we had an alternative plan and that's what we were trying to push through, but yes I regret rejecting this approach as it's more expedient and all that matters is the health of our nation's children", instead he's tried to look clever with a typical politician's answer and ended up stumbling over his own feet like the immense clown that he is.

    But at least we understand he couldn't have answered like that because he doesn't understand what shame is, and it simply didn't occur to him to do everything in his power to ensure no child goes hungry because he simply can't empathise with people he doesn't even nearly understand.
     
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    Be careful sitting on that fence mate.... you'll get splinters in your arse....;)
     
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  16. Damo

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    True, but I think our opinion is blemished with those deviants who have the money to look after their kids and feed them but waste it on drink etc, but then you could argue that addiction is a disease in itself so shouldn't be too critical. However same with benefits you don't stop paying it because a small % abuse it. There are many rich MP's who are just as feckless but are fortunate to get away with due to inherited wealth etc
     
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    Giving more money still wont feed the kids as its down to the parents to prioritise feeding their kids in the first place. Another £10 in their hand is never going to be spent on the kids. Kids going hungry is solely the responsibilty of the parents and no one else. If feeding the kids is not their top priority then thats where the problem is.
    I know at first hand in a previous job how kids are neglected and money was not the issue.

    Though saying that free meals at a local school during holidays should ensure the kids do get fed and are less neglected.
     
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  18. Aaron Baker

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    You will notice that whilst other have mentioned other vices (drink, drugs, cigarettes) on here that I actually haven't. I don't like to focus on that because it distracts from the general debate.

    I try not to let those "deviants", as you put it, distract from the main issue. There is a balance of responsibility between the individual and the state and often the focus on that balance is too often weighted towards the "free" option provided by the state rather than personal responsibility.
     
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  19. Aaron Baker

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    Can we ban this WUM yet or at least keep him on the football stuff?
     
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  20. Aaron Baker

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    Just trying to have a look around to educate myself on some of the impact.

    Found this article concerned with child hunger and the example they used at the bottom actually made me laugh,

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/03/exclusive-fifth-of-uk-homes-children-hungry-lockdown


    Felix Platt, 15, Norfolk
    Felix and Romilly Platt.

    “It’s really tough. Dad works as a restorer and mum stays at home but there are nine of us under 18 in the house all the time now: three in primary school, two in high school, one in sixth form and three little ones. We have to be more resourceful about what we’re eating – simpler things like pasta and pizza and fish fingers that are easier and cheaper to cook.
    “There are no snacks or treats and the little ones are finding it harder, they’re not used to food being rationed. Trying to keep everyone balanced and happy is really hard at the moment. Fruit and veg isn’t the main thing Mum and Dad are worried about, they’re trying to just give us the main meals.”

    Erm......does anybody want to spot the major issue that could be causing the hunger problem here? I'm not sure it's government policy :joy:
     
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