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This is what happens if the government keeps cutting essential public services for ten years. Eventually things grind to a near standstill and all kinds of negative consequences occur.

 

Shame he couldn't engage his brain and think about how his actions could impact Bradford City football club as well as his own life.

 

All this “I’m back soon” / “he’s back soon” (I know him) talk was utter nonsense!

 

I can't disagree with most of that. I sure wouldn't want the job of investigating serious crimes, but their are awesome police personnel who are tied up dealing with crap on a daily basis. I have many friends who are coppers and all of them give the impression that much of their day is spent behaving like a social worker sorting out domestics, and when they're not doing that they're doing paperwork or they're stood around making sure nobody steps on Extinction Rebellion protesters laying on the floor on public walkways.

I agree they're under-resourced, and I don't understand why we can't afford the previous budgets, but the money is clearly going somewhere, or has gone somewhere. 20% on police pensions is a hefty hit, but the reality is that without big tax hikes there just isn't the money to afford the kind of first world budgets we used to be able to afford. Alas, we are slowly becoming like a third world nation who can't afford luxuries like the NHS, decent policing, decent education, roads that are not full of potholes, etc.

 

I can understand the police and their defenders complaining of cuts to the budget but have little sympathy for the simple reason that instead of reform they CHOSE to cut police officers and services instead, Just think of the savings that could be made,
43, Police commissioners
43 Assistant police commissioners
43 police commissioners, office staffing, cars and headquarters
43 Chief constables constables
43 Assistant chief constables
43 chief superintendents
43 police headquarters
43 Headquarter staffing
43 police accountants
43 lots of office staff
43 Pool cars for head office staff
And lots others probably missed,
Had the police agreed to be reformed down to maybe 4/6 areas then they would not have had to make most of the cuts they claim to have reduce the service to the public, It seems the police are more interested in keeping 43 gravy trains going rather than what is best for the public

 

Well that is a great argument, let’s end the debated all sorted. Do you also have risk analysis of wiping out all levels of management, and the backroom staff? If you do, I would be sending it in to the West Yorkshire Police commissioner.

 

Well its a bit of a bizarre statement but yes condensing the current 43 forces down to a manageable number of around 5 or 6 would have job losses and a concentration of funds more on the front line rather than in backroom office jobs and administration,
It is Interesting that the whole of Scotland can manage with just one police force after combining the previous 8 in 2013 and that Northern Ireland has only one police force but England and Wales still have over 40 different forces all to be administered and funded as such wasting Billions of pounds on unnecessary duplication,

 

I am not saying we shouldn’t try to cut costs. However, the population of Scotland is the same as Yorkshire, in fact iYorkshire might be larger. You would also need to look at the reported crime versus population, terrain type to make a more comprehensive comparison. I actually agree about crime commissioners, never did see what added value these political entities would provide. Not sure about the population of Wales. Nevertheless swathes of cutbacks across the Police Force has its effect. The top managers are never going to vote for Christmas, so it has had a dramatic effect on front line services.

 

Police forces round the country have built administrative empires with top of the range cars and salaries to match, Meanwhile the front line is the first to be cut when savings are made.

Reminds me of the Yes Minister sketch where the new local hospital was open and fully staffed but could not afford to admit any patients, It won the best run hospital award

 

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So you want the club to put out another statement exactly the same as the last one explaining that he is suspended pending the outcome of the investigation?

 

I don't know what's hapoening.

Do you? Tell me.

 

But do you know for sure that it is with the CPS? As far as I know, if evidence is presented to the CPS and is insufficient to charge, they won’t take it any further until they are confident that a conviction can be secured. If there is sufficient evidence, he would have been charged already.

I know of no other case where a person gets arrested, and no charges are brought some 12mths later.

 

I think there are limits on how long an ongoing investigation can take place between arrest and charging, but no idea what are the time limits.

 

The law was brought in at the pushing of defence solicitors, they just didn’t want people on bail, which is what they have got

 

Say for instance charges were dropped, surely he/we are able to gain recompense for wages/monies lost. Who would be liable, the police or the claimant.

Surely there is someone who would have to pay up, he has either been funding himself for a year or we have being paying him regardless

 

No, unless he can show that there was a malicious angle to it. Plus has he lost any wages?

 

I don't know, but if he hasn't lost any wages then we have been lumbered with paying him for over a year whilst he is unavailable. How's that either fair or work. Would we have some form of insurance that covers stuff like this. He probably won't be on much but say it was a n other on for example 5k a week, we'd be effectively quarter million out of pocket

 

As far as we are aware it is the club's decision to suspend him, so therefore they foot the bill. Sunderland allowed their player to play right up to the weekend before his conviction.

 

Could be anything