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This just about sums up the terrible divided state we are in.
- A group of City 'supporters' attempt to sponsor a match using the name 'James Mason Appreciation Society'. Either they are thick as pig shit (unlikely) or this is a deliberately provocative act, designed to embarrass the club, given the speculation about the circumstances of James leaving.
- Guiseley recognise that they are being unwittingly drawn into a machiavellian plot to provoke division and negative publicity for City, so they sensibly refuse the sponsorship.
- Someone connected with the failed ruse then anonimously feeds Bronco with a statement to post on here, but falsely attributes the refused sponsorship to Edin's intervention rather than Guiseley's good sense.
- Cue bunfight on here.

Like some other regular posters, I've recently taken a back seat on here because I'm sick of all the infighting. I have my doubts about some of the owners' statements and actions and whether their plan for the club will work. But we are where we are. The owners are not going anywhere so we might as well try to get behind the club and hope that the plan succeeds. Sniping at every last little thing the owners do at every possible opportunity will not help matters. And deliberately trying to use a match sponsorship to embarrass the club and create further division is pathetic.

 

Thanks for that Sergio, Trevor and a few others. I did suggest to Park earlier that I give a full cover of Ambassadors, roles, fees and so on but he has not responded so I will deal with your point.
Firstly I am not one of the Naughty Boys so your comment to me is misplaced. I wont hold my breath for an apology. Second the Naughty Boys are not some self styled group of elitists, just normal hard working business owners or senior managers, BCFC fans and successful at what they do. I say self styled because they were not responsible for the nickname, they just ran with it as an amusement. Third, neither they as a group or any other Ambassador is out to cause trouble deliberately, if that were not the case why as a group would we be contributing around £60k in fees for the coming season when we have no need other than the love of the Club which, hopefully will be here after we all shuffle off. In my case after 64 years supporting, possibly quite soon.
Now, one year after Mark Lawn became joint owner he, very cleverly introduced the notion of having paying Directors and paying Associates. I was invited to join the Board in 2009 and my wife became an Associate later. I was thought to have some property and corporate skills which would help the Club. Before JR and ML sold the Boardroom had formed a strong bond, you do when you sit with the same people at games on the same table. The group known as the Naughty Boys formed a strong bond which went outside VP but always part of the BCFC welcome to visitors, a welcome which finished with us winning the EFL Boardroom of the year for 5 years running. So what you say! I say it built the reputation of BCFC in L2 and then L1, generated goodwill which we all need now and then and other Clubs looked forward to coming to VP for the welcome. After one game, on leaving us the wife of a visitor said " Goodbye you naughty boys" and it started there. Not self styled, not created, not arrogant, not even thought of.
Football is a small world, you realise that as you visit other Clubs, word got out, visitors would arrive saying "which are the naughty boys?" They were made welcome, we won awards. When the EFL decided to declassify we finished third behind Newcastle and Norwich the season before last...brilliant. Seniors from different clubs all say great bunch, at the end of last season when we sent MK down Pete Winkleman the Chairman made a tearful speech as how he would miss the naughty boys

 

You mean the City Ambassadors are wanting to stir the shit ? For what end ?

The person(s) feeding you the info also need to have a look at themselves and see how much division between fans they are causing it's simply not needed, if the Ambassadors want to run the club how they want to, then get a consortium together and buy the club.

 

‘The James Mason Appreciation Trophy’

 

The club needed me when i have given money over the years when they needed saving during bad times, your probably not old enough to remember the Save Bradford City fund when they gave out a Certificate of Appreciation for those who helped save the club from extinction in the early 1980's when the receivers were called in.
So don't tell me that the club does not need supporters like me, if it wasn't for supporters like me and thousands of others you would not have a club to support, so just have a think before you post.

 

Anyone got 3 days spare? Apparently Rod has a question.

 

Doesn't the reaction the the rumour perfectly demonstrate the division the people doing this are trying to create and the owners are trying to avoid?

Anybody just want to watch some football without all this bullshit fuss around it?

 

Its the club within the club.. They have been sussed, found out and are now being flushed out and they dont like it, simple as.

 

I can't talk for everyone but I fit into neither of those two camps. I don't agree with Edin's outlook on the game, I don't like the plan and I don't think it will work. I can't do anything about that though,

More importantly though. I'm utterly bored of the sniping, bitching and childish bickering that is going on around our club at the moment.

If there's something going on come out and say it and back it up with proof.

Actual grown adults getting other people to post their words on a message board, club "Ambassadors" calling themselves "Naughty Boys" and trying to get sly little digs in using Mason's name. I mean, feck me, I'd be disappointed if my kids behaved in such a juvenile fashion. It's nursery stuff.

Somebody said it earlier but put up or shut up. Speak clearly about the issues behind the scenes if that's what you want to do but stop causing low key unrest just for the sake of it.

 

I’ve heard Edin speak about players, players wages, agents and other owners without being specific. He has a belief that it’s all wrong and he’s doing it his way. He’s not bothered who is in his way. He believes he is right and the only thing he cannot understand is why all City fans won’t get behind him.
He is a control freak and it bothers him that he cannot control the message. He is our own version of Donald Trump.

Going back to the Chelsea game I was told that it was said on BBC radio that all football fans at that moment wished they were a Bradford City fan. That made me proud. Our home game atmosphere was envied across the game. We were popular amongst other fans and owners who looked with envy. Edin has destroyed all that. Within the game, our reputation is taking a hit. We’ve hardly got an exemployee who does n’t hate the man. Not all were bad at their jobs.

If we have success he’ll hang around. If we don’t, the constant grumbling and constant anti Edin social media attacks will get to him and he’ll want out. Like Trump he is a bit thin skinned. He thinks we should appreciate him. I think he’s deluded but I wish the club well. The results will dictate what happens next. A big season awaits.

 

Read the post, I know for a fact that half of what Roger Owen tells you is bullshit and then (hypothetically speaking) even if it was true, it's still sly and unprofessional. There's nothing complicated in that statement.

You're right, I am just another poster on a football forum and I don't pretend to be anything different. Unlike you who's tried to pass on someone else's writing as your own so it's comes across that you have first hand ITK information and can portray yourself as being important. Ever since the takeover saga a few years ago you've been desperate for ITK info so you can get the attention you crave. You're a complete man child.

 

Walter and others, the rest of the post but not identical said along the lines:-
Yes these guys have a badge, presented to visitors, Barry Fry loves his and imagine walking into the Boardroom at Plymouth to see the same badge, respect to BCFC they said. Good relationships and respect to the Club.
The Naughty Boys do other things, money for charity and for four years or so have sponsored a game at Guiseley, last year BCFC. They do things together, it's called being a solid team.
Final word to Sergio and others, I find that before you jump to sneer and criticise, better to have some facts.

 

They are doing it in a way to provoke a reaction and will be used as something else to bash the owners about, it needs to stop, it's doing more harm than good.

 

Herein lies the problem, you've become a puppet on a string and that's a fact, whether you like it or not as well.

Edin's one, your two and whichever Ambassadors tried to set it up and let you know the "facts" make it a few.

Why would they need to let you know ? So the shit can be stirred.

Another public attempt to criticise the owner(s) in an attempt to get them to make a public statement.

 

Deliberately using an obviously contentious match sponsorship name to create sniggers and embarrassment for the club, and then anonymously feeding a skewed version of events to Bronco to provoke a reaction on here, is a bloody strange way to 'speak out' about events at the club. It's just divisive muck-raking and in no way is it helpful or constructive.

 

Read this thread and to be honest not sure of the rights and wrongs and who is telling the truth,
What does concern me a little however is a group of grown men who are so childish to name themselves "The naughty boys club" More school-boys than Ambassadors and should grow up.

 

Some fans have firmly planted their feet in Rahic can do no wrong mentality, I accept others see him as a nemesis and do no right.
Personally I feel he'll fail in his ideology and vision of where the club will go, obviously I could be wrong.
However, it saddens me and makes me angry knowing we were on the cusp of Championship football.
The fans that firmly back ER way, I feel, will be dogmatic and probably still argue his virtues in the national leagues.
If, it does go pear-shaped, then Rahic is in for a big battle, I won't give my club up easily.