Quantcast

  1. Welcome to Bantam Talk

    Why not register for an account?

    Not only can you then get fully involved in the community but you also get fewer ads

  2. Premium Membership now Available


    Please see this thread for more details

    Dismiss Notice
Welcome to Bantam Talk Premium Membership now Available

League Cup & League Trophy Draw

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Edin Nowhere, Aug 17, 2020.

Most Liked Posts
Page 1 of 3
  1. Edin Nowhere

    Edin Nowhere Impact Sub
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2018
    Messages:
    3,523
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    Well tomorrow at 10am is the League Cup first round draw. Such is the organisation of this it will be drawn to take place on the 5th September to open the season, however there is an international fixture list taking place that weekend so games could be moved to the week before.

    Then the much anticipated League Trophy draw will take place at 1.30pm, which will be the 3 group games with the Premier League kids having 1 side in each group.

    So in a season which is starting a month late, we are still shoehorning this abomination of a competition into the fixture list whilst at the same time suggesting that FA cup replays can't be accommodated. That's before what has happened with Celtic and Aberdeen in Scotland and Salford and Hull in Rugby league where multiple games will be postponed due to players catching CoVid and being forced to isolate. If this runs it's course that is 8 extra games in a shorter season just to give the premier league kids some play time.

    I can see some clubs playing up to 4 times a week.
     
    #1 Edin Nowhere, Aug 17, 2020
    Big Gav likes this.
  2. WilsdenBantam

    WilsdenBantam Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    7,066
    Likes Received:
    15,114
    Finances from these competitions could be vital to some clubs in this climate, interested to get the thoughts of the club to see if we are one of them. Suppose we’ll know by the strength of the team we put out in the trophy games.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #2 WilsdenBantam, Aug 17, 2020
    Bronco and Interested Bystander like this.
  3. Interested Bystander

    Interested Bystander Important Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    18,041
    Likes Received:
    27,286
    or you could embrace the fact that EFL clubs need the cash and just take the 20k for turning up
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #3 Interested Bystander, Aug 17, 2020
    How likes this.
  4. bantam2708

    bantam2708 Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Winner

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    6,600
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Agree. As much as we all hate the FL trophy, I hope we take it seriously this season, given it's something like 10k per win I think.
     
    #4 bantam2708, Aug 17, 2020
    WilsdenBantam, How and Interested Bystander like this.
  5. Edin Nowhere

    Edin Nowhere Impact Sub
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2018
    Messages:
    3,523
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    They don't get 20k for turning up, the lower league side has to fund the game being played on their ground and only get such a bonus if they win. The pot of gold at the end was a full Wembley but even that's off the table now.
     
    #5 Edin Nowhere, Aug 17, 2020
  6. Interested Bystander

    Interested Bystander Important Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    18,041
    Likes Received:
    27,286
    So the participation fee of 20k doesn't count?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #6 Interested Bystander, Aug 17, 2020
  7. Dennis

    Dennis Captain
    Moderator Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    5,982
    Likes Received:
    15,005
    It's £20k for simply participating in the competition and then as you say, £10k for a win and £5k for a draw in the early stages. Last season the average pay out from the competition was around £45k for each Div 2 team. It's not megabucks even for a club in the khazi but there might be additional matchday revenues to offset against the costs of staging the games. Its importance to the club is that the player costs fall outside the salary cap and if the club has any sense, they'll use the extra cash as cup bonuses or appearance money without impacting the salary cap and make it slightly more attractive to the players.

    Whether it's worth the effort to stage this competition in a crowded fixture list this coming season is questionable.
     
    #7 Dennis, Aug 17, 2020
    WilsdenBantam, bantam2708, How and 2 others like this.
  8. Edin Nowhere

    Edin Nowhere Impact Sub
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2018
    Messages:
    3,523
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    It costs money to put on 3 games all this is just swallowed up.

    It wouldn't be so tragic if the EFL hadn't have said this,

    “Due to the unprecedented challenges facing the fixture calendar as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic and starting six weeks later than usual, the Sky Bet EFL Championship will feature 13 midweek match rounds whilst League One and League Two will have 11 respectively throughout season 2020-21,” said an EFL statement.

    There is no way you can come at it with the we can't fit in FA Cup replays whilst at the same time there is space for an 8 game competition.

    These league's might not have the finances due to reduced income to finish the season, nevermind piling games on them in a schedule that is already full to bursting before the season kicks off without bad weather postponements or postive Covid tests.
     
    #8 Edin Nowhere, Aug 17, 2020
  9. Gardscoigne

    Gardscoigne Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2018
    Messages:
    1,233
    Likes Received:
    2,287
    I’m confused, City have announced we will play Doncaster and Oldham in the EFL Cup - I thought the draw was tomorrow?
    Or is that just when they add the invited teams?
     
    #9 Gardscoigne, Aug 17, 2020
  10. Edin Nowhere

    Edin Nowhere Impact Sub
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2018
    Messages:
    3,523
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    Just seen the draw with the EFL clubs is done on the quiet. The draw for the U23s is done tomorrow at 1.30pm as if it is a treat for the EFL clubs to be playing them.
     
    #10 Edin Nowhere, Aug 17, 2020
    Gardscoigne likes this.
  11. Gardscoigne

    Gardscoigne Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2018
    Messages:
    1,233
    Likes Received:
    2,287
    You don’t sound as though you feel privileged to be gracing the same pitch as the great ones!
     
    #11 Gardscoigne, Aug 17, 2020
  12. Edin Nowhere

    Edin Nowhere Impact Sub
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2018
    Messages:
    3,523
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    As we have Oldham in our group, I'm suprised they won't throw in Leicester and one other Manchester Team to hold our very own CoVid lockdown cup in this competition.
     
    #12 Edin Nowhere, Aug 17, 2020
    Botswana Bantam, Mighty Bantam, Idlebantam and 8 others like this.
  13. How

    How Knows Football
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L. 18/19 Winner Euro 2020

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    8,412
    Likes Received:
    10,623
    Bolton away in carabao first round. Fantastic.....
     
    #13 How, Aug 18, 2020
    RCarol and The Evidence like this.
  14. shoatsy

    shoatsy Regular Starter
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Top 30

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,038
    Likes Received:
    2,743
    Half decent
     
    #14 shoatsy, Aug 18, 2020
  15. The Evidence

    The Evidence Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    1,014
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Oh well... we'll be able to concentrate on the L2 survival plight
     
    #15 The Evidence, Aug 18, 2020
    Inspector, Bantamsteve, Tony Wilkinson and 1 other person like this.
  16. simons (woking bantam)

    simons (woking bantam) Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,091
    Likes Received:
    5,724
    Going to have to be able to beat teams from our own division if we are to have a cup run - we can beat Bolton as long as we go there with the right frame of mind :thumbup:
     
    #16 simons (woking bantam), Aug 18, 2020
    RCarol, Stoneski, Gardscoigne and 1 other person like this.
  17. How

    How Knows Football
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L. 18/19 Winner Euro 2020

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    8,412
    Likes Received:
    10,623
    I hope we take the cups more seriously this year. Just threw them away last season. Carabao not the best for prize money but get a decent draw later on and chance of it being on tv which would help
     
    #17 How, Aug 18, 2020
    RCarol likes this.
  18. Mickey bantam

    Mickey bantam Fringe Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    1,632
    It just had to be Bolton or Tranmere in the draw.
     
    #18 Mickey bantam, Aug 18, 2020
    Stoneski and Bronco like this.
  19. Dubois

    Dubois Squad Player
    P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    May 14, 2018
    Messages:
    1,540
    Likes Received:
    3,241
    Bolton have invested heavily in a bright, up and coming manager who has used sophisticated modern methods to assemble an impressive squad. We have gone back to tried and tested failures in both manager and players while spending as little as possible. We can't lose.
     
    #19 Dubois, Aug 18, 2020
    How, Parader and Briggus like this.
  20. Tolly856

    Tolly856 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2018
    Messages:
    2,400
    Likes Received:
    4,568
    Watch Eoin Doyle put 3 past us.
     
    #20 Tolly856, Aug 18, 2020
    The Evidence likes this.
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 3

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Accept Learn More...
    Dismiss Notice