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Match Thread Most liked posts in thread: Home v Salford Tuesday 27th April@7.00pm

  1. Dennis

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    The club purports to be a professional business and there should therefore be no need for a begging bowl to be handed around. The solution is a simple one. Put season ticket prices up to a realistic level and for the club to persuade the supporters why that is necessary.
     
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    That last sentence resonates with me a lot. A lot of fans seem to think that cheap season tickets is bringing in more money when really it limits as a club what we can bring in. It is infact a way of subsidising cheap football. Its all well and good having double the amount of customers, because essentially thats what we are, but if the revenue they bring in only equates to much the same of a fan base with half the fans paying double then its pointless.
    Forget the merchandising and catering argument, te scales of how much we actually sell wouldn't be that different. If raising the season ticket price by a couple of quid a game is apparently going to put off those masses of fans, then i can guarantee you those same fans aren't going to be spending money on food and merchandise at the club based on the prices charged as their whole argument for coming in the first place is because its dirt cheap. This wonderful notion that becuase tickets are cheap they spend it on shirts and food and drink is pretty naive.
    If you want this club to run like a sustainable business, which seems to be the mantrta these days, then the fans are going to have to shoulder some of that responsibilty. Having ridiculously cheap season tickets but then wanting to go round with the begging bowl for revenue is a very weird logic.
     
  3. NorthernMonkey

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    How much do you reckon the fine should be @XCIV_Bantam@XCIV_Bantam?
     
  4. Rogered Tart

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    There isn't any business in the world that lowers it price other than because they can't sell their product. Forget this wonderful notion is was to make football affordable to the masses, it was a last ditch role of the dice to try and get people to watch what was a crap product. Now for three years we have had a crap product which fans have stuck with through loyalty rather than it being cheap.
    Now i can guarantee part Sparks remit as CEO is to show Stefan at the end of the financial year that turnover is up on the previous year. Its what all CEOs of business have to do and the biggest influence on this is season ticket sales. Now we've all, well most of us with a will to succeed, have campaigned for the club to show some ambition in moving forward. That in terms of small ground improvements and new staff and off the field. This can only be funded two ways, via the owner putting more investment in and/or the club raising turnover via supporter numbers and commerce.
    A successful business cannot operate on a stand still turnover, you have to look to maximise profit. And i am still yet to be shown evidence that if this club puts the ambition in via player buys like we have started to do then the fans would not be prepared to back it in the form of a season ticket price increase. Anything upto £200 is more than reasonable its less than 9 quid a ticket FFS. And i suggest any CEO worth his salt should also be thinking the same.
     
  5. Loyalbantam

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    Surely the lack of hot water and soap dispensers in toilets is a breach of being a Covid safe venue?
     
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  6. WilsdenBantam

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    Exeter must have played on a different surface when they were on the ball, if we’d have retained the ball and moved it as well as them I’d have been more than happy. Some should go look at Peterborough’s pitch on the league highlights and how well worked some of their goals are. It’s not no mans land in the Great War there were some bald patches and minor bobbles as you’d expect with any pitch this time of year. I remember a Bristol City team playing us off the park on a pitch far far worse, a decent professional outfit can play on far worse than we had to Saturday. Let’s not forget we had injuries though as well m8, less than Exeter but still. I’m confident the players and management won’t have made the same excuses as some on here at least, so hopefully we’ll see an improvement.
     
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  7. Park bantam

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    Barrow weeks after making a few signings are now furloughing some not right that is it
     
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  8. Bigrod

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    Somebody I know said they stopped playing in May 1974!
     
  9. wetherbywhaler

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    With respect Trevor I don't think your comments can apply to the pitch this season. There have been no problems with water despite heavy rainfalls and there is no wear even in goal mouths. The pitch had some sand on it before the Barrow game but that will be washed in. If you watch the games you will see generally there is no bobble on the ball and as I've said on another thread I believe we have one of the better surfaces outside the PL. You only have to watch games, eg Barnsley, Exeter, Harrogate, Southend and many more to see how much better VP is.
     
  10. bantamdave41

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    Complaining about wanting fecking hot water in the toilets... That's complaining??????????? Unbelievable

    The club can pay for this basic necessity.
     
  11. Rogered Tart

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    Exactly. instead of banging on about the pitfully low price of £150 how about do the hard sell that a price increae of £2 a game could well make the difference to a promotion budget next season. The club is at last showing a modicum of ambition in bringing in players like Rowe and Canavan, its about time the fan base understood you don't get something for nothing. You want self sufficiency without a sugar Daddy it comes at a cost.
     
  12. Dennis

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    Yep. If the club wants to increase its revenue, it has to increase both its entertainment value by which I mean what we all see on the pitch and the services and facilities it provides for its custoners, sorry fans. Both of those cost money. And I want a club which can do those things on a sustainable basis without relying on the handouts from its owners irrespective of how much money they have. In reality that means we fans having to pay more for our entertainment unless there are windfalls to be had again.

    If I were a widget manufacturer, I'd expect to be selling the widgets at the market price. If I wanted to sell more, I'd either have to become more efficient at producing them and or investing in equipment to manufacture a better widget with the expectation of then making more profit. I wouldn't be expecting the shareholders to give me some money so that the price paid for the widget could be subsidised. If I was ever in the market for a Tesla, I'd expect to pay the going rate for that premium product. I wouldn't exppect the owner to be subsidising my purchase even if Elon Musk is the richest man in the world.

    But that view isn't shared by all fans. Some believe that tickets to watch our team should be subsidised whilst others believe we can watch a better product without paying more for that. I really don't understand those views.
     
  13. Faithful Bantam

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    I’ve said it before; its about value, more than price. We originally slashed the price because something had to be done to re-engage fans back in 2011(ish). It’s then become a self fullfilling myth that the only reason fans go now, is because its cheap. I think its a nonsense. If 12,000 people are willing and able to pay £150 to watch the shite we’ve been serving up for the last 3 years, they’ll pay £180 to watch something half decent. They’re not just going because its cheap, they’re going because they’ve re-established a connection with the club. Price increases have to be carefully managed, but we should look at whether the reduction of COVID restrictions will trigger a thirst for fans to want to get back to live games next season. I think it will. An increase to £175 is very reasonable and can be badged as less than £2 a game increase. If this club is to move forward, it’ll need fans to do their pay and pay something like the going rate. We haven’t even been increasing prices in line with inflation, so in real terms prices have been going down!!
     
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  14. Bigrod

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  15. Bronco

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    I wonder when we were in the Premier League and throwing money around why we didn't invest in under-soil heating, even with our problems with our pitch it could have been sorted surely.
     
  16. Rogered Tart

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    Here's any easy answer. Just put the price of season tickets up, theres your fund right away.
     
  17. JonButterfield

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    Scoreboard too.
     
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  18. Dennis

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    For those like you who seem to think that increasing ST prices will lead to a commensurate fall in sales leaving us no better off maybe we should reduce prices, sell more tickets and we'd equally be no worse off? Those empty seats in the stadium would be filled though.

    If you re-read what I said, an increase in ST prices would need to go hand-in-hand with a proper marketing campaign where the club explains why prices need to increase. We can't hgave one without the other. That's what most sensible businesses would do as Mason demonstrated when he managed to sell 18,000 STs a few season ago.
     
  19. JudgeMental

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    Another post that has gone off topic, worse still is that a moderator is participating.
     
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  20. Faithful Bantam

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    Yeah, lets stick the fixture that isn’t happening please.
     
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