The club purports to be a professional business and there should therefore be no need for a begging bowl to be handed around. The solution is a simple one. Put season ticket prices up to a realistic level and for the club to persuade the supporters why that is necessary.
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Rogered Tart Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
Forget the merchandising and catering argument, te scales of how much we actually sell wouldn't be that different. If raising the season ticket price by a couple of quid a game is apparently going to put off those masses of fans, then i can guarantee you those same fans aren't going to be spending money on food and merchandise at the club based on the prices charged as their whole argument for coming in the first place is because its dirt cheap. This wonderful notion that becuase tickets are cheap they spend it on shirts and food and drink is pretty naive.
If you want this club to run like a sustainable business, which seems to be the mantrta these days, then the fans are going to have to shoulder some of that responsibilty. Having ridiculously cheap season tickets but then wanting to go round with the begging bowl for revenue is a very weird logic.Angryangryian, Bantam@{Lancs}, bantam2708 and 3 others like this. -
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Rogered Tart Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
Now i can guarantee part Sparks remit as CEO is to show Stefan at the end of the financial year that turnover is up on the previous year. Its what all CEOs of business have to do and the biggest influence on this is season ticket sales. Now we've all, well most of us with a will to succeed, have campaigned for the club to show some ambition in moving forward. That in terms of small ground improvements and new staff and off the field. This can only be funded two ways, via the owner putting more investment in and/or the club raising turnover via supporter numbers and commerce.
A successful business cannot operate on a stand still turnover, you have to look to maximise profit. And i am still yet to be shown evidence that if this club puts the ambition in via player buys like we have started to do then the fans would not be prepared to back it in the form of a season ticket price increase. Anything upto £200 is more than reasonable its less than 9 quid a ticket FFS. And i suggest any CEO worth his salt should also be thinking the same.pns1945, WilsdenBantam, Dennis and 2 others like this. -
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Park bantam Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant
Barrow weeks after making a few signings are now furloughing some not right that is it
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bantamdave41 Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020
Complaining about wanting fecking hot water in the toilets... That's complaining??????????? Unbelievable
The club can pay for this basic necessity.Idlebantam, Rogered Tart, Dennis and 1 other person like this. -
Rogered Tart Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrantbantam2708, WilsdenBantam, Faithful Bantam and 1 other person like this.
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If I were a widget manufacturer, I'd expect to be selling the widgets at the market price. If I wanted to sell more, I'd either have to become more efficient at producing them and or investing in equipment to manufacture a better widget with the expectation of then making more profit. I wouldn't be expecting the shareholders to give me some money so that the price paid for the widget could be subsidised. If I was ever in the market for a Tesla, I'd expect to pay the going rate for that premium product. I wouldn't exppect the owner to be subsidising my purchase even if Elon Musk is the richest man in the world.
But that view isn't shared by all fans. Some believe that tickets to watch our team should be subsidised whilst others believe we can watch a better product without paying more for that. I really don't understand those views.Faithful Bantam, WilsdenBantam, Fordy117 and 1 other person like this. -
I’ve said it before; its about value, more than price. We originally slashed the price because something had to be done to re-engage fans back in 2011(ish). It’s then become a self fullfilling myth that the only reason fans go now, is because its cheap. I think its a nonsense. If 12,000 people are willing and able to pay £150 to watch the shite we’ve been serving up for the last 3 years, they’ll pay £180 to watch something half decent. They’re not just going because its cheap, they’re going because they’ve re-established a connection with the club. Price increases have to be carefully managed, but we should look at whether the reduction of COVID restrictions will trigger a thirst for fans to want to get back to live games next season. I think it will. An increase to £175 is very reasonable and can be badged as less than £2 a game increase. If this club is to move forward, it’ll need fans to do their pay and pay something like the going rate. We haven’t even been increasing prices in line with inflation, so in real terms prices have been going down!!
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‘And according to the report, in League One the highest earning player is on what equates to £15,600 a week while in League Two, the top earner makes what works out as £4,500 a week’. Source the Manchester region newspaper https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/leaked-report-reveals-how-much-18169396JonButterfield, Faithful Bantam and WilsdenBantam like this. -
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If you re-read what I said, an increase in ST prices would need to go hand-in-hand with a proper marketing campaign where the club explains why prices need to increase. We can't hgave one without the other. That's what most sensible businesses would do as Mason demonstrated when he managed to sell 18,000 STs a few season ago.bantam2708, bantamdave41 and Rogered Tart like this. -
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Another post that has gone off topic, worse still is that a moderator is participating.
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