Hillsborough

One of the reasons they opened the gate was because fans where climbing the walls into the ground so the fans without tickets saw what others were doing resulting in a crush at the turnstiles. So they took the decision to open the gate basically being a free for all with or without tickets.

 

I didn't say he caused it but he was responsible for the policing that day and he failed to control the situation and because of his lack of experience 96 lives were lost.

 

No sh!t,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the judge didn't agree with me, it would't be the first time a judge has made the wrong call.

 

I was under the impression that it was the jury that made a decision and the judge determined punishment ( I could be wrong though)

 

Still, still, still people apportioning some blame to Liverpool fans for being drunk, rushing the gate, turning up ticketless. All lies.

 

Yes I misread it sorry @Storck & @Interested Bystander.

 

All 3 of those things happened, they're fact not lies.

Whether they played enough of a part to apportion blame though is a completely different debate.

 

Liverpool fans have been cleared of ALL blame.

 

Where did I blame them?

 

I never said you did.

The Sheffield Wednesday club secretary got fined. Currently (I think) the only person named and punished to any degree. I'm astonished that Duckenfield has not been punished in some way after he admitted that he lied about a gate being forced by Liverpool fans.

A lot of the major myths about the event are explained well here. Also confirmation that Liverpool fans have been cleared of ALL blame.

 

What an absolute fecking disgrace this is.

Everyone knows that the South Yorkshire Police systematically altered scores of police notebooks to hide their responsibility for the deaths of 96 fans at Hillsborough. But a judge has ruled that they can't can't be found guilty of perverting the course of justice because the original inquest was not a statutory legal procedure, therefore there was no justice to be perverted. The judge also ruled that, because it wasn't a formal court of law there was no duty on the police to tell 'the whole truth'.
The Liverpool fans were completely exonerated from blame at the re-heard inquest verdict in 2016. But now their bereaved relatives get no justice whatsoever. Yet again the police have got away with murder on technicalities and the ineptitude of the CPS.
And to add insult to injury, one of the police defendants' barristers went on live radio after the recent case collapsed and repeated the lie that Liverpool supporters were to blame for the tragedy. He should be struck off.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/28/hillsborough-families-ordeal-ended-insult-96-victims?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/28/hillsborough-mayors-accuse-qc-of-repeating-lies-about-liverpool-fans?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

From what I understand, the families wanted different and broader charges brought which would not have been so easy to have wriggled out of on technical grounds. But the CPS got their way and pursued the specific charge of perverting the course of justice, with disastrous consequences.
It sounds as though the CPS and their barristers were nowhere near as well researched and briefed as the families' barristers were at the 2014-16 inquest and have basically been given the run around by the defendants' legal team. It's a total shambles that leaves the families in the lurch, with not a single police officer held to account for the deaths or the subsequent cover up. It's appalling.