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  1. Rogered Tart

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    The police aren't there to be your mates, the clue is in the wording. All this bollocks about community police and neighbourhood teams, police are there to uphold the laws of the land. Watching the police get run out of places in the likes of London is quite embarrassing.
     
  2. How

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    Another thing that must stop is the “trying to be in everyone’s gang” that the police do currently. Having rainbow face paint at pride marches, pride cars with graphics on the side with bright colours and Pride all over It. Dancing around at carnivals. No. You are the police and must uphold the law for all with no discrimination. Be part of the community yes and be friendly and approachable but the rest. Stick it in the bin otherwise you find it hard when you have to get tough.
    (Before anyone says it I have nothing against any community/following etc it just has no place being promoted by police forces)
     
  3. Frank Castle

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    Your ignorance astounds me at times!
     
  4. Hoochy-Min

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    Or you could stop posting shite.
     
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  5. Hoochy-Min

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    Waiting for the facts to emerge from this case is sensible.

    On a broader point, we unfortunately reap what we sow. Not you and I of course, but the decisions of our government to support the US as they go and police the world to protect their interests. Our actions are seen as acts of war and the terrorism on our streets is their reaction to it. You can't expect to go to war without consequences.
     
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  6. Frank Castle

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    Not going to argue. Many people have tried to educate you but you just continue with your antiquated (some may say racist) views. I'm not going to put you on ignore as I feel such views do need to be highlighted as and when you post them. Eventually, I think it'll probably end up the same way as it did over on C&B though. Ta-ta.
     
  7. Dennis

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    We could start by identifying those who shelter their wealth in the UK's tax havens beyond the view of HMRC. There's a few billions to start with.
     
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  8. How

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    Said it on the previous thread, you cannot continue to underfund the police force and expect to prevent these outcomes. It’s no coincidence it is getting worse. The threat of terrorism has never gone away, as you say the majority of is our own doing, yet terror related arrests are down year on year but active investigations and cases continue to sky rocket. Theresa May was warned and practically embarrassed as Home Secretary in what she was letting this country in for and she ignored it then, ignored it as prime minister and her party continues to ignore it now.
    There are other measures too and controlling who comes in is one of them, but the police were overstretched with it all years ago and warned this would happen.

    tactics have changed. They no longer make bombs or carry guns. They don’t need to. They don’t even hire vans anymore and mow people down. All they need is a knife. Frightening.

    On a side note you only have to look at the parties in London the police can’t even control and they are powerless to do anything. Even running away at times. It’s not easy to watch. They are losing the streets there. The thin blue line is getting thinner and thinner.
     
  9. Faithful Bantam

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    More police is one part. Police being allowed to police is an even bigger part for me.
     
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  10. Faithful Bantam

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    Underfunding and under training is an issue. But it's not the only one. It's a lack of leadership and public backing. I know a few police officers. I'm good friends with a couple and I can tell you, morale in the force has never been lower. They feel utterly helpless and a mixture of either being mismanaged or completely abandoned. It's all targets, political sensitivities and a lack of courage to actually fight crime and police the local community. The idea of police brutality in this country being a systemic thing is laughable. We have one of the softest, lightest treading police forces in the world. Large scale civil disorder is coming. In fact I think we're seeing the start. BLM protests, right wing protests, riots in Brixton and similar scenes in other boroughs, a mass fight on a welsh beach, large scale disorder in Liverpool. All within the last 3-4 weeks. And that's not including the stabbings in Reading or Glasgow.
     
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  11. Nottsy

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    The UK loves to vote to get rid of the toilets, and then moan that there’s piss and shit everywhere.
     
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  12. Rogered Tart

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    They were got rid of because as usual we couldn't trust human beings to use them properly. Although having seen the mess left behind on Bournemouth beach and the celebrations in Liverpool it doesn't surpise me one bit. You could have put dozens of bins and toliets there for usage and it wouldn't have looked any different. We live in a very selfish society.
    I'll give you an example, i had to go make a report on my stolen tools a couple of months ago. Only station open these days in Bradford is the HQ on Nelson Street, can't even get in at Lawcroft House these days. Couldn't have a piss because the only toilet was for the disabled and they didn't have the key, which they kept locked because of constant misuse. In a police station, i kid you not. We really do have to share oxygen with a sizeable number of feckwits.
     
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  13. Idlebantam

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    The police have made a rod for their own backs really recently, and I am talking about the chiefs. The nonsense in Bristol when thugs were allowed to destroy a public statue whilst the police officers were directed not to intervene by their chief, was a disgrace

    You have some that were taking the knee with BLM protestors, another disgrace. One of the agendas of the BLM movement is to abolish the police force as we know it

    Let's start getting tough with these thugs and round them up plenty of footage of the Brixton rioters for example to help identify then, and the Bristol anarchists too.
     
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    I’ll wait for the facts to emerge. There are common elements to these incidents, but nevertheless lets see what comes out. If it IS another case of an asylum seeker wreaking carnage, what’s the answer? You can’t stop immigration and therefore there’ll always be a risk that evil will lurk in plain sight. You have to address the root causes, which are nearly always back to poverty and an oppression from being able to act and speak freely. It’s a complex web.

    Basically, as a species we’re a stain on the planet. And I see things getting worse, almost by the day. I fear for the world my kids will have to live in.
     
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    Completely agree. Imagine the reality of living in some of these countries. Genuine conditions of poverty. Real poverty. Zero chance of making a better future for your children in terms of wealth. Poor levels of protection of your civil and personal freedoms, but you make the most of what you have. Then along comes the West to drop bombs by way of a solution. Nothing to do with control and access to oil reserves of course. Yeah, you're view of the world is seen through a very, very different lense.
     
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  16. trevor

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    Asylum seekers waiting a decision on whether they will be allowed to stay should be held in camps until the application is resolved, Then they can be helped to integrate in the community or removed from the country, At the moment we are paying £BILLIONS to private companies to house them in slum conditions with little control on where or what they get up to.
     
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    The old ones are the best you need to change your script lad I just find it quite amusing that you tell other poster to stop posting shite then on another thread you tell people what your eating for breakfast like a 5 Yr old telling there grandparents :thumbup::thumbup:
     
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  18. Keefly Bantam

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    I think it would be interesting to have a poll of how many people would be prepared to pay more for a more safe and secure environment. I think it would be higher than you are suggesting.

    I would happily pay 1 or 2p more in tax if it guaranteed more police on the streets. Would you?
     
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    Those who can afford it should pay more of a share too, a lot more.
     
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  20. Rogered Tart

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    My apologies if i didn't get the reference m8, i agree with you. This 'Bobby on the beat' is a lovely wonderful notion that leaves you all warm inside when the truth is its actually pointless. You could double this countries number of police and it wouldn't make a difference. It would to the police in being able to do their job more efficiently but what exactly is that job these days? Spending millions chasing unlicensed drivers with helicopters and x5s, catching them then watching them get a suspended sentence and a fine they have no intention of paying.
     
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