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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Dubois, Jul 1, 2023.

  1. Dubois

    Dubois Squad Player
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    Like last season I'm trying hard to work out what system we're going to go with this season. Last summer we seemed to sign all manner of players and then when MH decided to go 4231 it transpired that many of those signings didn't fit the system. Some, Oliver, Odusina and Young for example, were given three year contracts, and others hardly featured. That seemed pretty incompetent to me, and very wasteful financially. Our loan signings too were very hit and miss, largely miss.
    Try as I might, I can't see any pattern this summer either. Are we going 352 and if so where are the wing backs? And if not how are we going to get McDonald, Smallwood, Pattison and Walker in the same team? And where does Chapman fit in? I'm sure it will become clearer as the new season arrives but I'm genuinely confused and fearful that the mistakes of last summer are being repeated
     
  2. Petrov

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    You need to squeeze Gilliead into that midfield as well. Anyone that thinks he's not going to be in Hughes' mind as a starter is kidding themselves.
     
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    I'm worried about that also but struggle to see either MacDonald, Walker, Pattison or Smallwood here to be on the bench.
     
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  4. BenitoCarbone

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    Hughes and Sparks have both spoken about how they want to be able to flip between formations more this season than last so it’s difficult to say just like it’s difficult to pick a first choice XI until the transfer window shuts and the squad is complete.
    I’d imagine that the minimum still to come in will be a LB and a couple of wingers with a few departures likely too.
     
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  5. JonButterfield

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    I think we're more likely to see two up top this season, as it's going to be hard to replace Banks and Wright. There is no point playing 451/433 if we don't have quality wide men.

    And, so far, we don't have quality wide men.

    442 diamond is a possibility without causing too much disruption to our tactics, could even go 3 at the back in a 352/3412.
     
  6. Sergio Pinto III

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    Its a clean slate and if he earns that starting role in pre season and his performances then no problem from me.
     
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  7. Park bantam

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    443 looks odds on at the moment with the players we have got.
     
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  8. Kevin1954

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    What do you mean where are the wing backs? Oggy and Oduor both play L/R wingbacks at their respective clubs.

    You can’t fit 20 players into a starting 11, so not sure why you are trying to do so. If we are to improve then some of last years squad won’t play as often….It’s that simple. That’s called progression, surely.
     
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  9. Kevin1954

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    At the moment yes, however not banking on it yet as there are at least three more to come in.
     
  10. Petrov

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    He never gives less than 100%, always looks busy and is one of the fittest members of the squad so there's every chance he earns that starting place. What worries me is if we start with the same central pairing of him and Smallwood it will mean we have learnt nothing from last season. It's either or for me but not both together.
     
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  11. Dubois

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    Not sure either see themselves primarily as a wing back. Oyegoke described himself as a right back this week and Oduor is classed as a midfielder by the club and wants to play no.10. And I'm not trying to get all the players into the team. I'm simply, as I said, struggling to find any formation for which we have an adequate squad. And, again as I said, I'm concerned by the apparent repeat of the scattergun approach of last summer. If someone can see a pattern or a structure to our recruitment I'd love to be enlightened.
     
  12. Sergio Pinto III

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    Smallwood and Gilliead were not a 'pairing' when Clayton was available. They were a trio and McDonald will assume that role you would think. There is also Pattison to consider.

    I wouldn't be worried - the club seem to have addressed the CM shortcomings with their recruitment.
     
  13. Sergio Pinto III

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    You think??? I see 1, maybe 2 at the most.

    We might bring a left back or a winger in but I dont see much more than that.
     
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  14. Allotment Bantam

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    An extra player! A grand idea. Surprised nobody has tried that already.
     
  15. Get Rid Of It

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    Nope, that is eleven outfield players
    You mean 4-3-3
     
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  16. Rita Sue and Bob too

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    At home I’d prefer if we played 2 up front and so more attack minded.
    Happy to play one up front away from home, it seemed to work last season.
    Behind that there’s lots of options depending upon whose available and who the opposition is.
     
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  17. Get Rid Of It

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    Agreed, expecting a few more loanees from higher up the leagues,but crossing fingers that they are more like Banks and less like Costelloe,Nevers and Bola
     
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  18. Kevin1954

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    Boom!
     
  19. Kevin1954

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    The have been brought in to do a job, what that job is MH knows. That doesn’t detract from my point though..Remember Curle had Odour playing centre back? Nobody thinks he’s coming in to play alongside Stubbs etc.
     
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    We shall see Serge. I reckon three 2 loans and a signing, IF at least two are shipped out.
     

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