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I understand what you are saying. Salaries in top flight football throughout Europe are stupid , and the prem clubs need to compete, with everything going on in the world it really is time for football to re-align as a whole, it will not happen though.

 

But those figures are not for the last 24 hours! It's just what was reported by labs and hospitals on the day. They cover numerous previous days. To determine the trend you have to study the date the specimen was donated or the death occurred.

By date of SPECIMEN DONATION new cases look to have turned in all English regions now and there's slight signs of turning in Wales. Northern Ireland and Scotland are still rocketing. Number of tests performed seems to have levelled off in the last few days after recent big rises so the trend might be less distorted. The trend of cases turning down continues to spread from Southeast to Northwest, having got past Birmingham, which we can now see turned over a week ago.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases?areaType=nation&areaName=England

Https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Birmingham

Hospital admissions and deaths are have less clear trends but their wave 2 peaks both remain September the 23rd, when attributed to correct date. Hospitals admissions look possibly be falling a bit and deaths possibly be rising a bit but more data will need to be added to recent days to determine. The notable thing is that neither have particularly been following new cases since summer.

http://covidtracker.uksouth.cloudapp.azure.com/

Here's new cases for Bradford by the way

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Bradford

 

Thanks and its a good post!

I could go on a really long winded post defending some of the teams down here but ultimately it comes down to money. It doesn't matter if you're Morecambe or Man United, you always want more. It's what drives society.
I'm not surprised that Prem clubs don't want to give out more money, they are only going to look out for their own self interest. I'm also not going to pretend that it would be all that different if Bradford or any other lg2 club was in their position currently. Lets also not pretend though that prem teams are the bastions of strong governance - they are only able to survive because some oligarch picked their team and because they have negotiated some astronomical tv deals.

But that is why industries are regulated and we have government. We have progressive taxes so that (in theory) the rich don't get too rich and the poor to poor. We have anti-monopoly laws to stop companies getting too big.
In football we have the FA and it looks as though they are doing FA about it. They have allowed the industry to get out of control, driven by greed, with no contingency plans and its a bubble which is dangerously close to bursting. If league 2 goes, then league 1 follows, and if only a few of the mega rich champ/prem owners pull the plug everyone is in trouble.

There is no one in this country looking out for the good of the game. It is quite galling to see prem clubs spending hundreds of millions whilst making their own staff redundant, let alone looking out for the good of the game. Football is dead.

 

Those BBC figures for the UK are by day of reporting - not when they occurred. They cover numerous days that went before, sometimes including cases or deaths from over a week ago. As far as I know, that global table you show is all by date of reporting, though I would not swear to it as only know a few. Some countries report notoriously late - Spain and Brasil come to mind. Your source shows Brasil deaths peaking in late July but I've seen a table by date of death that peaks at the end of May and is much more like the UK's shape. I know it's confusing. Some of the people in charge seem confused.

 

I understand what you are saying. Salaries in top flight football throughout Europe are stupid , and the prem clubs need to compete, with everything going on in the world it really is time for football to re-align as a whole, it will not happen though.

In 2010 the department for culture media and sport , funded the arts to the tune of £900 million, approx £18 million per week.
Taken from the bbc
I am not sure what the level is now , it probably has not gone down 10 years on.
I dont see why a department that is responsible for both football and the arts , can fund one and not the other , in such times.
After all football is my opera/ ballet.

 

They don't need grass roots for production lines, these kids are hoovered up from a ridiculously early age as potential cash cows now for the big clubs. Their academies remind me of universities where you sell the child and the family a dream. And now look at the profits the big academies are making for their clubs owners, the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool now selling players to other lesser premier league clubs for tens of millions pounds, youngsters that have barely played any games for their original clubs.
I'm like you, i do care for the lower leagues clubs, probably because i've supported one for years. But the gap between the top two and bottom two divisions is widening at an alarming rate, i'd go as far to say i could see league 2 clubs going semi professional if the decline carries on. The premier league cares not one iota for anything but themselves.

 

I suppose what i am trying to say is that ,if the premier league stand back and do nothing over and above what is the norm in these difficult times and allow the so called lesser members of the football world to perish, for the sake of money, then that,s me done, with the game at that level. Yes i would love city to climb the leagues and reach the top flight again, but if that means becoming so self interested , you can not see the bigger picture. Then no thank you.
Covering the wage bill up to salary cap level for league 1 and 2 would only be approx £90 million, whats that a couple of transfer fees this summer.

 

Problem is the people who supply the wealth to the premiership have no interest whatsoever in our historical football pyramid, they'll be more than happy to see slary caps introduced that means less money has to filter down. i'm in my late 40s, football as i knew it has gone. To be replaced by a sport ruled by big time investor oligarchs and even state funded clubs. I even know of league 1 clubs who have investments in the far east tied within their long term business plans. Once the virus decides to move on we will see the full effect of the salary cap in operation, it will save a fair few clubs in the long run but beware if you drop out of the championship like Sunderland and Ipswich have because you now find yourself on an even keel with the Accringtons of this world.

 

There's a number of issues here.
In principle I'd have no problem with the PL supporting the pyramid, but my questions would be around how any money is actually used, and how it's divided.

 

Shall we do out usual thing and wait and see if that's still the same turning point in a week?

Eventually you will be right. One of the turning points will be genuine rather than lagging data but up until then it's the equivalent of a broken clock telling the right time twice a day.