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  1. Idlebantam

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    You tell us that Stuart is probably the best player you have seen for us, yet in the same post and subsequent one, you still refer to him by calling him in by such a derogatory name.

    You may not rate him as a manager, bt he still commands much more respect than the name you call him

    Shame on you Norman
     
  2. Bronco

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    Difference is Bowyer had 9 months to get a performance out of that squad and rarely did, and unfortunatly looked incapable of stopping our bad run.
    I'm sure if McCall fails again you'll be back to shout it from the roof tops, and if he delivers promotion you'll not be seen again.
     
  3. Bronco

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    Once again you just spout without any knowledge of me or my posts, if you look back I think apart from Park I've supported him during his tenure at Valley Parade, so your above comment has little credibility and was one of the few to read he'd been sacked the other Monday.
    I'm really not bothered about his time at Rangers, Motherwell, Scunthorpe or being assistant to Gordon Strachan, my only concern is his time at Valley Parade, so when Julian phoned him and asked him to return I believe the vast amount of Bradford City fans agreed if anyone could save our present season and possibly get us back into a play off place Stuart McCall could.
    Are you really 62 if so I don't think comments like "McCrap" become you for one of our older posters.
     
  4. Petrov

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    Lowering expectations already. Why as a club do we always seem to do this to ourselves? What other club sitting just outside the playoffs with a dozen games of the season left would talk themselves down like we do? Where is the positivity and belief? Where is the motivation for the players to give their all and actually achieve something this season? There are clubs much lower down the table than us still talking about pushing for a play off place but we are gently putting out the message that it might just be a step too far this season. Unbelievable.
     
  5. Swindon

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    Hi again, guys.

    Your present situation is not unlike ours when we sacked Phil Brown and brought Wellens in. Knocking about the play offs, standard of football pretty dire. Wellens’ first game we lost 4-0 at home to Carlisle! He steadied the ship, though, and we had a tilt at the play offs without ever really threatening to make it.

    He had said since that the squad he inherited was nowhere near good enough, unbalanced and not capable of playing the way he wanted. Big clear out in the summer, loads of players brought in - with the financial backing of Power it must be said - and, hey ho, here we are.

    So what I’m trying to say is that it seems likely McCall is facing similar problems. Give him a summer to sort the wheat from the chaff and start anew if you fall short this season.
     
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  6. Dennis

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    A DoF isn't a necessity for a club to have consistency of approach rather than change it when the manager changes. I've used Swansea elsewhere on here as an example of how it was done successfully over time from them being almost relegated into non-league obscurity to getting promoted to the PL. It took a chairman in the form of Huw Jenkins to have a clear vision of what was needed both on and off the pitch and to recruit a series of managers and coaches to deliver it. He decided what type of footbal was to be played; what type of squad was needed and what the balance in the squad was to be. He didn't allow his managers to recruit a plethora of defenders or a group of similar types of midfielders if they didn't fit with his vision of the club. And he didn't need a DoF or even former player/manager to do that. He talked to experienced people in the game for him to frame his own view of what the club should be. There is no reason (other than the two obvious ones both beginning with R!) why we shouldn't be capable of doing that equally as well as Swansea if there was even the vestiges of a plan to do it that way.
     
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    Looking at Stuart's managerial record,details of which you ignore,
    his first go at City was a failure.He was not experienced or ready.
    He openly admitted that and did the honourable thing and stood down.

    His time at Motherwell was a success despite what you want to believe.
    They finished 3rd and played in Europe.The SPL is a two team league
    so any other team who finish 3rd is the best of the rest.

    His demise at Motherwell came through drastic cuts in
    the budget which meant his best players leaving and
    that ended his time there.

    His 3rd attempt back at City was under Rahic,do I really need to add to that?

    Scunthorpe was another club with a sack happy chairman and
    in my opinion the wrong club for any manager wanting to
    build something and needing time.

    Being back at City he has lifted the club and will continue
    to do his best as we all know.Promotion is now a possibility.

    Calling Stuart McCrap is disrespectful and offensive.Try
    supporting him and the club and who knows,we may see
    you buying a season ticket??
     
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    Can city get a sporting director please. Just announce one, we don't have to pay him and he doesn't have to do much but just get one so we don't have to put up with this broken record day in day out.
     
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  9. Faithful Bantam

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    This season, my expectation is simply that he starts to embed a way of playing that's more enjoyable and gives cause for optimism for next season. To re-engage the players and to show that the 7 or 8 players worth keeping, are improving under him. Purely on the basis that it's a terrible league, that might be enough to get playoffs. But this squad needs a massive overhaul, so for me the real judgement starts next season.
     
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    Arguments about different stats to demonstrate their various points of view is pointless in my view. We all want success for the club and no doubt we all have different ideas on how to get there.

    Parky had his way of getting success, we all put up with his style of football because it was gaining results. Bowyer wasn’t successful for us and his style of play was just awful and you just cannot hope to defend your way out of this league.

    Stuart comes for an enormous amount of stick for not getting us promoted but unlike the two above he was constrained by the owners. We can argue till the cows come home on that one. Those that disagree with his appointment at the expense of exploring other alternatives fail to recognise the importance of maintaining the fan base and increasing it if possible. Did they appoint Stuart on emotional grounds? Absolutely not! did they exploit the genuine fans emotion absolutely! For me it was a business decision. However, not entirely he did very well last time to get us to Wembley, yes we didn’t make the final hurdle but he is the only one has got us anywhere near.

    I think those that throw criticism at him because of the fans emotional attachment to him are overlooking what he did achieve.

    I am really pleased to see him back because I want to see what he can do with the full support of the board. However, that is not my only reason. I went to see a friendly against Guiseley on his return to City last time. It was just brilliant to watch a passing game of football which I hadn’t seen for a very long time by players in the claret and amber. Parky brought us success, and Stuart nearly did.

    I really want to see him succeed and hopefully this season but he gets the following season for me as well. If we haven’t achieved success in that time, then we will change manager.
     
  11. Dennis

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    Most of that I agree with. As I've said on other occasions, our club seems to operate on a day to day with no obvious direction as to where we're going. Part of it stems imo from having an owner who has no real interest in the club, no affinity with the fans and has probably realised by now that he was encouraged to buy a pig in a poke by his former business partner. Bringing JR in certainly helped to steady the ship in the short term during a difficult time but we know from his past lengthy involvement with the club, he has never sold the fans a future. It was usually hand to mouth stuff waiting for the next windfall to keep us afloat. And it needs more than that. Even now, we have no idea what their plans are, whether that's Rupp or JR and we lurch from one manager and his particular footballing approach to another. And with that another rebuilding of the squad. There's just no continuity at the mo and I don't see that changing under the leadership of Rupp and JR. I'd welcome a new owner or a new CEO (or ideally both!) who can inject some direction, ambition and enthusiasm into the club.
     
  12. Keefly Bantam

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    Bowyer didn't resign but waited to be sacked hence getting a pay out-he knew the writing was on the wall.

    SM resigned first time and I believe its on record somewhere so the club didn't have to pay compo by sacking him.

    The second time he left you need to include ER in the inability to turn the bad run around seeing as he was actively involved in team selection. Also add in the player revolt , which we now know was aimed at ER, and you had a toxic mix. The fact we were in the top half of the table with all that went on behind the scenes shows how well SM did.

    Getting sacked by Scunny is par for the course with their chairman.

    As for getting on his back after one game is laughable.

    This time he comes with years of experience and no interference from the board.

    He gets plenty of time from me to turn the club around. Remember its not his team so he is hampered somewhat.

    You have to be realistic in this situation.
     
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    Did ‘McCrap’ get jiggy with your missus or sommat. You really are a miserable beggar, straight on the poor guys case. Piss poor post tbh.

    Bowyer has signed some pretty average players, I will give MCCall some time, just as Bowyer had, and just like most sane supporters will do.
     
  14. Dennis

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    Expressing opinions on here is to be encouraged. But conflating opinions with facts is confusing for everybody and isn't to be encouraged. Banging on about the same issue ad nauseam to the annoyance of others is definitely not encouraged.

    And for the record, I don't recall anybody on here saying they were 'happy with failure' as you describe it so let's stop with the hyperbole which has no substance to it. It's fecking boring.
     
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  15. The Granby Mullet

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    I understand his frustrations. The word failure might be a bit strong but it does seem that a lot of our fan base are happy to accept mediocrity with some of the attitudes shown on here and on social media. Like a stubbornness that they can't bring themselves to slate the club when it's totally necessary to do so at this moment in time. From what I see on multiple platforms. Some are just happy to plod along no matter what division just to have something to do on a Saturday and get served up any old dross and will clap them off willingly week after week. I want this club to be the best it can be and be further up the pyramid. I want a decent atmosphere with full away ends week to week. Just think the attitude of some fans reflects the board and the attitude to just keep ticking over. There's teams with smaller crowds, worse facilities showing more ambition than us. Utterly frustrating when all it needs is some structure and planning. First point of call should be a Head Scout to work alongside McCall or a Paul Jewell sort of role DOF or whatever the title is. Get rid of the deadwood like Anderson and Co and use their wages for a proper coaching staff. Head Scout, Youth Scout, Striker coach, Sports Analysts and the pitch etc... actually turn us into a professional looking outfit on and off the pitch. Need a plan in place instead of crossing our fingers every summer and hoping for the best. Trim the squad and expand the staff and get everyone pulling in the same direction.
     
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    The blue text is hurting my eyes !!!
     
  17. Offcomedun

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    McCall kept us in playoff positions for a season and a half on a player budget that was dwarfed by several other clubs (Bolton, Blackburn etc) and with Edin Rahic constantly interfering and undermining him. He had players sold against his will and limited influence over who was bought in.
    In the circumstances he performed miracles to do as well as he did. Parky went on a run of 20+ games without a win, was backed by Lawn and Rhodes and turned it around. By contrast, McCall was sacked at the first opportunity that Rahic could get away with, despite the squad being racked with injuries at the time. Eg, if you recall we actually had no fit fullbacks in the squad for several of the six game losing streak, so he was being forced to play people out of position. Add in the obvious dissent and low morale in the squad caused by Rahic's antics and you had a perfect storm. For any manager to be sacked in those circumstances was a disgrace.
    But don't let your obvious antipathy to SM as a manager get in the way of acknowledging the realities of the time, eh?
     
  18. Dennis

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    I understand fully why fingers should be pointed at Rupp and Rhodes if SMc isn't suceessful this season. But some fans are already saying, that SMc was dealt a poor hand and we shouldn't expect too much this season. I'm guessing that Rhodes and Rupp will have the same excuses already pre-prepared if he isn't successful.

    But if we are not successful this season, it really is their responsibility. They could have removed Bowyer earlier; they chose SMc as their 'go to' manager; they could have appointed SMc earlier if they really believed he will bring success; they could have supported SMc in the transfer window and they could still have had their sell 20,000 STs hashtag! But they decided to do it differently and only appoint SMc after the window had closed and after the Doyle and Vaughan debacles had been sorted out. I'm beginning to feel duped by all of this and am not convinced that there aren't ulterior motives at play.
     
  19. QCFC BANTAM

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    He only ever posts on here to bash Stuart, doesn't contribute anything at any other times whatsoever...wonder if it was his car that Stuart was climbing on in 1999?
     
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    Stuart and Kenny have inherited a squad with limited ability with no obvious leader. Most appear hard to work with and there`s no backbone, mentally not strong enough. End of season clear-out is inevitable and they`ll get in players who are willing to put in a good shift and go again next season. You don`t have to pay massive salaries but sign players with a big heart and are up for the fight which is sadly lacking with this over-inflated squad.
     
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