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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by butters, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    Thought it sounded a strange way to run a company. I’m guessing whoever told @trevor@trevor this was selling stuff and using that as a cover
     
  2. trevor

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    It was a senior manager at the club who bought the perimeter ground advertising ground rights and then was allowed to resell it giving the club a guaranteed revenue but also an income for himself, Another a head of marketing who was on zero salary who resigned intimated to me he was unpaid, It is not unusual for some companies to trade season tickets and hospitality or discounts etc for small jobs that need doing
     
  3. trevor

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    So the club within a club did not exist even when the new owners said it? If not then please explain what it was they found as you seem to know? It was not criminal or deceit or the police would have been brought in, Please explain what the comment meant if you know the details, Would be delighted if my info even from good sources was wrong
     
  4. Storck

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    Ah, so he bought it and then sold it on. So similar to the catering contracts.
     
  5. Dennis

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    It involved David Baldwin and it happened many years ago not long after ML invested in the club and when things were very tight financially. When DB returned from Spain, ML asked his mate DB to review the club's commercial opportunities to see whether the club could raise more money from non footballing activities. At the time, DB was not employed by the club and the work was done pro bono. When DB identified that the club wasn't making best use of its advertising space, he offered to help the club by buying the spare advertising rights for a guaranteed fee (I think just for the perimeter hoardings) and for him (or rather one of his own companies if I recall correctly )to be able to sell those rights to others. And it worked for all parties according to DB. The club received a guaranteed amount from DB when it didn't have the capacity to negotiate those things and DB made money from the sell-on. According to DB, the arrangement ended about the time he was appointed as the chief operating officer and the hoarding advertising was taken back in-house.

    It's an exaggeration, no distortion to suggest that DB was a senior manager at the time and that the arrangements somehow subsidised his salary. That wasn't the case. As you say, it was a very similar arrangement to what DB later introduced for the club for the catering and merchandising contracts.
     
  6. Bigrod

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    I always find it interesting, when ‘I understand’, makes a quantum jump ‘to be fact’!;)
     
  7. makalaka

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    Storck and Bronco like this.
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    Was the kit man was sacked for washing dirty laundry in public?
     
  9. wetherbywhaler

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    Indeed, your info is incorrect. Please carefully read the super post from Dennis which has it all spot on. How do I know?, simply because I was on the Board and saw it all happen in front of me. Make no mistake, at a time we were strapped for cash David Baldwin took a significant risk to help the Club. As it happened DB came out very slightly on top but it could have gone the other way. Irrespective the Club got much needed income at a vital time. Hats off to DB.
    As far as your other comment regarding another person working for nothing I can clearly state that up to the time of the takeover in May 2016 no direct employee of BCFC worked for nothing. How do I know?, I was still on the Board and had access to the full payroll details. Equally if what you claim to be the case happened post 2016 then that would have encouraged a "..Company within a Company.." which Stefan and Edin did not want and closed down. With respect then you are wrong with both your claims.
    Oh and please stop misquoting Club within a Club, the correct quote from Stefan in Matter of Heart is set out above. Do I know what went on and with whom?, yes I do, I have all the papers and statements but that is not a matter for public knowledge, the matter is closed and history. As I said on this thread earlier to Edwin and Old City Man, we move on, I suggest you join us in that aim.

    Roger Owen.
     
  10. Tennesseebantam

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    I know some people won't care for it but I do like it when Roger Owen comes on and attempts to clarify things. I also like the idea that he mentions information that is "not a matter for public knowledge". As much as we would like to know everything, surely we can't argue with that idea?
     
  11. trevor

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    Am quite happy to move on Roger, The statement of a company within a company has never been explained by either the club or yourself especially as you know what was meant, The post I made was quite clear in that I tried to explain what MAY have been meant by that comment and never claimed it as a fact and was only speculation as I knew the club had in effect franchised out some elements of possible revenue to club employees or others and companies owned by them ( As you said you yourself David Baldwin was one of those ) It was a genuine attempt in absence of an explanation by those who know but will not explain as to what it was the new owners objected to on examination of the club after purchase, If you would like to stop the speculation as to what was meant then simply post the answer
     

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