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  1. bailiff bridge bantam

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    On current form Kane wouldn’t get in our team never mind the national team.
     
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  2. NorthernMonkey

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    It might depend if he sees him as having a chance of making the WC squad.

    If he thinks it's too late then I'd tend to agree with you but if it's a possibility (and with a few out of form it should be) then he needs to have a look sooner rather than later.

    Who knows, there's usually one surprise pick that makes a late charge.
     
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  3. Sergio Pinto III

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    Rashford has been dross for a while now. This season and last season at least - ask any Man Utd fan and they would find it hard to disgaree. Sancho is struggling to adapt but hopefully finds his feet. Jesse is nearly 30 and his career pretty much stop start. Opportunities there for a wide role as Emile Smith Rowe showed recently.

    Rashford needs to find his feet or he could easily end up like Dele Alli. In limbo and miles down the pecking order.

    On current form, Bowen should walk into the England team. Needs to carry it through to March for England role though.
     
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    Don't know what he was thinking in added time yesterday though. Managed to chest the ball over the bar from point blank range. If he'd headed it he couldn't miss.
     
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  5. Sergio Pinto III

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    And Bowen just continues and continues...

    Sancho - improving but a long way off
    Rashford - terrible. Utter crap for a long time.
    Grealish - not pulling up any trees.
    Sterling - class on his day. Had some tough spells but hit good form recently.
    Saka - very good player.
    Smith-Rowe - gone off the boil recently. Lost his place.
    Lingard - anyone remember him?

    Bowen has been the most consistent and best English winger in the PL this season.
     
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  6. NorthernMonkey

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    Can't really argue at the minute Serg. Bowen had certainly earned his chance this season.
     
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  7. NorthernMonkey

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    I went to the Liverpool Cardiff cup game last week and apart from Jota Liverpool were pretty unimpressive and laboured going forward.

    Then they made changes and Elliot absolutely lit up the place. Everything he did was sharp and snappy and he matched it with work rate and energy.

    First time I've seen him but I was really impressed and he easily outshone his older, more experienced peers.
     
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    Harvey Barnes was shit off a shovel today. Made Coufal look poor, which doesn't often happen.
     
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  9. Sergio Pinto III

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    Year. Not season.
     
  10. NorthernMonkey

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    You wrong then.
     
  11. Sergio Pinto III

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    Im not wrong, I said I heard.

    Just pulled up his stats, 1 PL assist in 2019, that's YEAR, not SEASON BTW.

    Pathetic.
     
  12. Sergio Pinto III

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    His job as a forward is to contribute more than that. If he had those stats and put in those pathetic performances for Burnley, Watford, Southampton he wouldn't be anywhere near the squad.

    Id honesty select Bowen at Hull over him.
     
  13. NorthernMonkey

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    You said 0 goals or assists. He's both scored and assisted in the calendar year so yes, you heard wrong.
     
  14. SimonW

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    Why is his job more than that? Because you and a bunch of football fans say it is? His job is whatever his manager asks from him and multiple managers keep selecting him and asking him to provide just those very things. Every team needs a selfless workhorse of a player and with football being a team sport they make the team better without doing eye-catching things. United look way more dynamic with him in the team than say Mata or moving Pogba into that position because his movement opens up space
     
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  15. Sergio Pinto III

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    I heard wrong but I wasn't wrong. Next time you need to read my posts properly too and understand the difference between a year and a season.
     
  16. Sergio Pinto III

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    Can you justify Lingards inclusion?

    You seem to think 1 goal and 1 assist is acceptable for a forward in 9 months.
     
  17. Sergio Pinto III

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    Man Utd are pretty terrible and Lingard is a part of those problems. It is bluffers like him and others for why they are no longer a contender.

    I think the general consensus amongst Man Utd fans is he is shit.
     
  18. NorthernMonkey

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    I haven't got all the stats, I've no idea if that's factually accurate or not.

    What I do know is that Gareth Southgate selected him and as an alternative the best you can come up with is Jared Bowen?
     
  19. SimonW

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    Trust me when Lingard doesn't start the team is more 1 dimensional. The likes of Martial and Rashford don't have spaces to attack and Pogba gets much less ability to roam or drive forward with the ball as space isn't there and he doesn't have a player who has the energy to trackback. That also limits the FB's ability to get forward as the chance of a turnover of play is much higher and they have less cover if they push too high.

    And fans hating a player or loving a player is hardly an example of proof he is shit. Just look at Herrera, Lindeloff and Bailly. Herrera was loved for his workrate but the amount of fouls he gave away near the edge of the box was crazy, and that was because his positional sense in the English game was woeful and he gave away fouls because he was having to try and recover from his bad positioning. Same with Bailly fans love his eye-catching last-ditch tackles but they were again forced on him by being badly positioned so he was having to try and make that up. Lindelof also has positional issues which is why he loses out on every single header he goes for. English football is different to the continent, even Pep had to adapt his style to be more direct and physical and that means the positioning you take up has to be different, all 3 players were/do take up the continental positioning (which is also why all 3 always look more solid in European games) but that puts them half way between two valid positions you need to take up in the English game so they get bypassed. Against Palace most united, fans blamed Maguire for the first goal, not Lindelof even though he lost out on a header with a smaller, less physical player because his starting position was all wrong

    Some players can do their job perfectly and even be the best player in the squad and fans will still hate them while others can be poor and still be loved
     
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    He runs around a lot!
     
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