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Do you trust the decision making of the leadership/ownership?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by BantamJ, Sep 11, 2023.

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Do you trust the leadership/ownership decision making?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    78.0%
  1. Idlebantam

    Idlebantam Squad Player
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    All his/her posts are wind ups
     
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  2. ahar964

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    What makes anyone think Rupp and Sparkes would be any better at recruiting a DOF that they are at recruiting managers? I'm sure if 2 years ago they announced we would be appointing Mark Hughes as DOF most of us would have been behind that, like we were when he was appointed manager.
     
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  3. Bantamsteve

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    They wouldn't
    Won't be long before Rupp sounds the cavalry charge and in comes Captain Admin to the rescue
    Get ready for those currants to be cut in half
     
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  4. Park bantam

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    It isn’t in significant debt because of Sparks stewardship past people in charge have been nowhere near as good at raising money and therefore good budgets. What was the buzzword in the previous regime for clawback
     
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  5. Kevin1954

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    Absolutely correct, why people are failing to recognise and respect him from a financial sense, that I am at a loss. His remit from the owners perspective is to run it without any investment or support from Rupp. Like it or not that’s exactly what he’s doing. People may not like him for it however credit where credit is due, and no way will Rupp dismiss him for it.
    Rupp will only act against Sparks if he fails to achieve sustainability.

    If the same can be achieved AND results on the grass pick up meaning promotion then the club will be a very attractive proposition for a football loving investor.

    When one reads the financial condition of some clubs it’s frightening.
     
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  6. Inspector

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    Should we just accept the last 5/6 years and be happy to bob around the arse end of the football league. The aim of the club is to progress up the leagues and that is what’s trotted out when season tickets are due. If the club were honest and said we’re fixing the off field structures first and to return to the leagues above will take years, then we would then be able to make an informed choice to buy or not. If Sparks took low risks and invested in making sure the right people were in place to get the football side of the club right, we wouldn’t be repeating the same mistakes over and over again. From where I stand, Sparks is too stubborn to employ someone who might have a greater responsibility for the team than he does, and it’s almost like he’s a watered down version of Rahic who also thought he knew best and wanted to run things his way even if he didn’t know what he was doing.
     
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  7. Kevin1954

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    Read my post again.
     
  8. Peter

    Peter Fringe Player
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    We are in a situation where the decisions made by the owner and CEO aren’t really based on football and delivering success. The decisions and plan is to not overspend and become a less attractive product to buy,if we had an owner and ceo who had convictions in their ability and in their decisions we would see more investment instead of scraping the barrel of lower league journeymen year on year. The current leadership are happy with ticking over, Rupp has a marketing yes man as ceo he isn’t losing money he’s in no rush to sell whilst he’s not losing this money so we are stick in a loop of average squads , hashtags to sell STs and multiple managers tasked with promotion to keep season ticket sales up but not given the tools to do it
     
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  9. Park bantam

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    The manager gets good budgets every season managers with good reputations haven’t used it wisely
     
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  10. Park bantam

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    Deficit is the word remember that
     
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  11. Peter

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    Biggest club in the league and never the top budget all the teams such as Bolton came down gambled and they have moved on we still expect a Gucci product on a primary budget
     
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  12. Park bantam

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    We have good enough budgets without gambling. Or deficits
     
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  13. Onside

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    That is what I thought for years now but I have changed my mind. What is a good enough budget? What is a competitive budget? Here is what I think. If we can afford 5/6 quality players in lg 1/2. We see off other clubs because we have the financial clout to do it. I don’t mind a small squad quality over quantity any day of the week for me. When we are doing that, then not only will be promoted but well on our way to stabilising the club but making real progress. At the moment we are 7/8th I think I saw.
     
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  14. Peter

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    Amen
     
  15. Captain Grumpy

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    We have a good enough budget,it has to be to fund over 30 players. The problem was that Hughes always wanted a huge squad,it was something he was criticised for at his other clubs. We need a squad of about 23/24 with better quality players and pad out injuries that may occur with some of our underused youth players. Incidentally in Stafford Heginbothams time he insisted on a maximum of 16 players in 1968/69 and upped it to 18 after gaining promotion.
     
  16. Onside

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    I agree about squad size. What you are saying you agree with me about squad size and quality. I think where we might differ is whose responsibility it is to sort that thing out. Both Sparks and Hughes agreed we would have a smaller and leaner squad this season. Guess what, we didn’t. I presume we couldn’t unload players but Hughes still wanted more players. I also presume that Sparks put his foot down and said no as the budget would not be increased. So we ended up with loads of young players from other clubs.
     
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    Sparks put the increase down to injuries which weren’t as bad as first thought. However I think the increase in players was because Hughes thought his three at the back wingback system would work ,but when he realised it wouldn’t work it was panic time and in came Wilson Tulloch Afoka to provide width.
     
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  18. borderlescott

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    I take the point but the game has moved on. Much more crowded schedule with all the cups and subs rules have changed and can sub on how many now? Was five at one point. Couldn’t even name five on bench in the 80s!
     
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    I agree there are more subs now, and certainly you couldn’t get through a season with 16 like Stafford had. There are no extra matches though other than the EFL trophy where most teams play the kids anyway.
     
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  20. BantamJ

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    Watched the day in the life of video on YouTube ans honestly couldn’t get over how tin pot the whole set up was. Can someone please explain why on his first interactions with the club GA is meeting with the commercial director on film?

    why is not the owner or head of recruitment? It looked like a GCSE film and genuinely thought GA was like it was amateur hour.
     

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