I don't really care, being honest. They have a presence in the UK, and I'll be joining those boycotting their stores and products. Its appalling practice and can't be allowed to become commonplace. Its an affront to basic civil liberty and that appalls me, wherever its happening.
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Boris has found a way of getting rid of most of the 80+ year olds saving a fortune, No way he is going to give up on covid now
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I've no idea how its co-ordinated and I'm not sure that even matters. The idea that a small number of people and businesses with power and influence that's difficult to comprehend, all of whom are self-interested and driven by power, control, money, might work together to effect a transformed society to enhance their own benefit to the detriment of the masses, is hardly fantasy. There's plenty of historic precedent for a small number of evil, narcistic types committing incomprehensible atrocities against the people they purport to protect and lead.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...vladimir likes this. -
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The idea of there being some form of agenda to massively transform the social and economic landscape seems easily dismissed. Largely on the basis of either 'why would anyone want to do such a thing', or 'that could never be co-ordinated on a global level'. Neither of which actually seem that fantastical to me. The majority of the worlds economy is controlled by a very small number of people, which transcend individual national governments. The world is connected, communication can be manipulated at speeds and to extent that has never been historically possible before.
But some people want to reduce it to 'yeah, Bill Gates wants to turn you into a robot'.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...vladimir likes this. -
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It isn't however foolproof. How successful it is for you is all about probability and risk. For a single jab of either the AZ or Pfizer vaccine, the largescale trials measured the efficacy of the vaccine at around 65%. That measures how good the vaccine is at preventing the illness. Day to day if you are infected with the virus, you have a 35% chance of that infection leading to the illness. You were one of the 35% whose infection led to the Covid illness which is why you've been so unwell.
A second jab of the vaccine after a time delay improves the efficacy of the vaccine enormously. It increase from around the 65% level to around 95% That may not sound like a big improvement but it means for all of us that the risk of being infected and it becoming an illness drops from around 35% from 1 jab to about 5% after the second. There is still a residual risk there which is why some people who have already been double jabbed can still suffer from the Covid illness but the risk of that is much reduced.
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Edit - The efficacy rates I quoted above are in relation to the Alpha (Kent) variant. The efficacy rates will be different for protection against the dominant Delta variant. Some studies indicate the current jabs are less effective against the Delta variant.Bronco likes this. -
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If an unvaccinated person gets the virus, and if a vaccinated person is unlucky enough to actually catch the virus from that person, it's very unlikely they'll even get ill, so why are they so scared?vladimir likes this. -
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On the subject of vaccine safety, any safety risks have been dismissed as marginal and 'greatly outweighed by the benefit' as a blanket statement for all, by government. And therefore taken as gospel by many.
A couple of interesting points - and I don't know whether there's any connection with the first:
1) The government has just issued an NHS contract tender for blood clot treatments, with a 3 year contract value of over £3b - £1b per year as an average. This article suggests that the current cost of treatment is nearer £208m per year. That's a hell of a jump - are they expecting a significant increase in blood clot treatments....? Blood clots cost the NHS £570,000 a day - RBR Legflow Active (rbractive.com)
2) Pharma company pursues a treatment to prevent death from the Covid vaccine ✴️Arc_Unreal on Twitter: "Due to the high volume of deaths related to the Covid vaccine, a company is developing a drug to try and prevent your death from the Covid vaccine! https://t.co/J8ZRbrgBF6" / Twitter
There clearly are risks with this vaccine - how much risk? Who knows, because its heavily censored. However, the fact that we're now dividing society and putting immense pressure on people to take a vaccine that has at least a level of ambiguity around the risk, seems utterly immoral.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...vladimir likes this. -
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Proof of vaccination AND photo ID now required to buy a cup of f******g coffee at Costa now.
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