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Quite right. Its a reductive title and seems to reflect the lack of appetite for people to consider a broad range of views.

Take the vaccine - there'd be a few on here that assume i'm downright 'Anti-Vax'. I've been double jabbed - I weighed everything up and decided it was the best thing for me. But its an individual decision based on my own circumstances. I can take that decision for myself whilst also seeking to call out a more transparent view of the risks for others. And you can absolutely be 'pro vaccine' and passionately 'anti-vaccine passport for everyday life'.

 

Oh my.

 

On a more social footing - there's a (significantly) lower level of uptake in vaccination within the BAME community. When anyone who isn't vaccinated starts to be treated like social outcasts, how will that play with the agenda for racial equality.....?

 

Its been an appalling display of leadership - and political challenge from Labour - from the very start.

 

Appalling, Heads should roll, But it is the real cost of a NHS that has been reduced to minimum care status to save money

 

Its a concerted thing, no doubt about it. There's an agenda playing out that's centred around Societal and Economic transformation.

 

1.The headline is the worst kind of tabloid sensationalist misrepresentation, even though it's the Telegraph, not a tabloid. "Could" be programmable. That means it's technically possible. It doesn't mean that it will happen. Is anyone seriously suggesting this should happen? Would Parliament agree to this? Of course not.

2. This has absolutely sweet FA to do with Covid, except in your fevered, conspiratorial imagination.

 

I've no idea. You tell me. You're the one with the belief in it.

How is it that governments all around the world - communists, neo fascists like Orban, libertarians like Johnson, religious zealots like Modi, centrists like Merkal, left of centre Scandinavians etc etc, are all applying the same measures to counter Covid, but are somehow part of a global control conspiracy, despite their totally different outlooks on life.

Please explain the mechanism by which such an unlikely confluence of covert political action would operate.

 

It's obviously a conspiracy to make you look bad.

 

I am not a fan of most conspiracy theories but a lot of the pushing a vaccine onto people they have got right currently.
Seems to be ramping up scaremongering wherever you look.
Now either that’s because they have paid for so many and want to make use of them or they are trying to use them as a bargaining chip and for more government income down the line.
When you can use the NHS app today to show you’ve had two vaccines you can guarantee in 12 months time or so if they can make 100 quid out fo you to purchase a vaccine passport they will

 

For me, there's a fundamental question. Do the vaccines work? If yes, how do vaccine passports make us safer? If no, how do vaccine passports make us safer.

Hope you're on the mend soon pal. I had flu once and it knocked me over for the best part of a month.

 

Get used to it. The coercion and pressure will now only ramp up - unless there's a very real, messy and probably chaotic fightback by people on the streets. People are going to have to decide where their principals lay and the extent they're ready to stand by them - for themselves, but even more so for future generations.

 

That works as a short, sharp tactic if you go VERY heavy. Its not an enduring solution, as we're seeing.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/30/nhs-made-secret-pandemic-plan-deny-care-elderly/?fbclid=IwAR2g4vb4v7vWxIR3a4KHOZMkAca1qHvKvNkKpx2VdT9u6AbypfxxpNwbISE

Remember, this is all about keeping people safe and saving lives, yeah?

 

Has anyone seen a single journalist ask a single politician whether the notion of covid passports are seen as a temporary or enduring measure?