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COVID: New World Order?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Rogered Tart, Jul 21, 2021.

  1. Rogered Tart

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    There's definitely a power struggle at play across the world where the poor grunts at the bottom are being manipulated and doing the dirty work of those hidden behind the scenes. I'm not sure the world will be the same again.
     
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    Its a concerted thing, no doubt about it. There's an agenda playing out that's centred around Societal and Economic transformation.
     
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    More conspiracy guff.
     
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    1.The headline is the worst kind of tabloid sensationalist misrepresentation, even though it's the Telegraph, not a tabloid. "Could" be programmable. That means it's technically possible. It doesn't mean that it will happen. Is anyone seriously suggesting this should happen? Would Parliament agree to this? Of course not.

    2. This has absolutely sweet FA to do with Covid, except in your fevered, conspiratorial imagination.
     
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    It has everything to do with the agenda behind Covid, you're just too blind or ignorant to see it.
     
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    Yeah, the agenda that is somehow shared by governments around the world of completely disparate political viewpoints. How does that work, again?
    Oh, I forgot. It's all down to Bill Gates and George Soros :laughing:
     
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    Yeah, cos thats what the conspiracy theory you're dismissing is based around, isn't it.
     
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    I've no idea. You tell me. You're the one with the belief in it.

    How is it that governments all around the world - communists, neo fascists like Orban, libertarians like Johnson, religious zealots like Modi, centrists like Merkal, left of centre Scandinavians etc etc, are all applying the same measures to counter Covid, but are somehow part of a global control conspiracy, despite their totally different outlooks on life.

    Please explain the mechanism by which such an unlikely confluence of covert political action would operate.
     
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    Could be used for things like the extra benefit payments given out during COVID that were given due to cost increase in necessities. Or the cards given out by schools during lockdown for the free school meals
     
  10. Rogered Tart

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    Well it certainly hasn't happened by accident. This aint just a virus that decided I'll just pop up in 2020.
     
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    My belief is in the outcomes that the supposed 'conspiracy' of a 'great reset' that are being played out before our eyes, rather than blindly following government and mainstream media narrative. Its happening - dismiss it as fantasy all you want, but its happening; Mass control of movement, censorship of speech, extension of government and policing powers, restrictions of right to protest, impeding the freedom of the press, the digitsation of currency and erosion of cash, a system which normalises forced medical procedures that COULD be used as a mechanism for all manner of things, the erosion of small business and supply chains creating ever more scope for the growth of massive multinational organisations, an ever growing dependency on the state and the means by which the state makes decisions and controls what you're going to end up being able to buy. Its all happening, you just don't want to believe it because you can't or won't connect it all.

    I've no idea how its co-ordinated and I'm not sure that even matters. The idea that a small number of people and businesses with power and influence that's difficult to comprehend, all of whom are self-interested and driven by power, control, money, might work together to effect a transformed society to enhance their own benefit to the detriment of the masses, is hardly fantasy. There's plenty of historic precedent for a small number of evil, narcistic types committing incomprehensible atrocities against the people they purport to protect and lead.
     
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    Or for who gets to buy food from supermarkets. Good or evil, its a gateway to the government being able to decide how people can spend their money.
     
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    Some people can't be told. You don't have to have all the answers to seriously challenge what's going on. The blind faith that people are placing in what their governments tell them is astounding - as if governments and politicians have a history of being completely transparent and working in the best interests of the public.

    The idea of there being some form of agenda to massively transform the social and economic landscape seems easily dismissed. Largely on the basis of either 'why would anyone want to do such a thing', or 'that could never be co-ordinated on a global level'. Neither of which actually seem that fantastical to me. The majority of the worlds economy is controlled by a very small number of people, which transcend individual national governments. The world is connected, communication can be manipulated at speeds and to extent that has never been historically possible before.

    But some people want to reduce it to 'yeah, Bill Gates wants to turn you into a robot'.
     
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    I'm not a conspiracy theorist and the choice of thread title is a poor one because it automatically railroads all discussion into the folder labelled bat shit crazy. And that's the problem with 'conspiracy theories'. They take away from the fact there is a story of truth and deception there but it's hilacked by the likes of Alex Jones.
     
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    Quite right. Its a reductive title and seems to reflect the lack of appetite for people to consider a broad range of views.

    Take the vaccine - there'd be a few on here that assume i'm downright 'Anti-Vax'. I've been double jabbed - I weighed everything up and decided it was the best thing for me. But its an individual decision based on my own circumstances. I can take that decision for myself whilst also seeking to call out a more transparent view of the risks for others. And you can absolutely be 'pro vaccine' and passionately 'anti-vaccine passport for everyday life'.
     
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    Illuminati Rules
     
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    Can we change the title of this thread. It looks like I started the thread and I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
     
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    It's obviously a conspiracy to make you look bad.
     
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    Who knows?
     

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