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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Aaron Baker

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    Is it? It just sounds like common sense to me.

    If they were banning people then yeah, but basically saying restrict you're movements if you can, in a higher risk area sound OK. I genuinely think we've got too attached to every change being analysed to the nth degree.
     
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  2. Edin Nowhere

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    That's what you get when people still remember being thrown into local lockdown last year via twitter at 10pm.

    That 10pm twitter lockdown in Bradford at the end of July made it illegal to meet in gardens till restrictions were changed some months later.
     
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  3. Storck

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    And that is my point. The areas covered didn’t know because the government didn’t tell anyone. It was pushed onto a webpage with nothing anywhere else saying that it had been updated
     
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  4. bantamlad92

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    Now that the Government have advised on essential-only travel in and out of an area which covers a percentage of Bradford (see https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/health/coronavirus/indian-variant-in-yorkshire-only-travel-in-and-out-of-kirklees-if-essential-say-government-3248716), it is obvious that the opening of VP must not go ahead as planned.

    It would be safe to assume a substantial percentage of City fans are from the Kirklees area, and with infection rates at almost 500 per 100,000, would it seriously be worth the risk to allow these people to come to VP? Or even anyone from the Bradford district given our close proximity to Kirklees.

    I will echo my sentiment of the past couple of days - there is no way we should be allowing fans back in for the forthcoming season. Can you imagine if we contributed to the ill-health of our friends, family, etc for such a selfish reason? Do people seriously think the risk is worth it?
     
  5. Storck

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    If you think the risk is too much then don’t go
     
  6. Idlebantam

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    The season is over 2 months away, what's your panic. I'm sure the correct decision will be made all in good time. If you are nervous about the situation, don't buy a season ticket, simple as that.

    By the way, are you now going to stop going to the shops, pubs, work and barbers etc?
     
  7. bantam2708

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    Bore off pal.
     
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    Yes they have changed the guidance.

    They have updated the website to include specific reference to the Indian variant. They have also singled out eight local authority areas where the Indian variant is highest and recommended that people in those specific areas take additional measures that aren't in the general guidance, including meeting outside rather than indoors and only travelling in and out of those areas for essential reasons.
    Those are clear and obvious changes. But what's the point of changing that advice if you don't bother telling people - even local MPs and Councillors - that you've done so? People don't check the government's website every day for updates. If the advice is worth giving then it needs to be publicised, or it's pointless doing it.
    You may agree or disagree with the advice, but that doesn't alter the fact that this is yet another example of the government's terrible communications around the pandemic. It's not quite as bad as giving people the impression they can travel to amber list countries and then telling them ( after they've booked) that they shouldn't. But it's up there
     
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  9. bantamlad92

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    Are you not taking official Government advice on a deadly virus (which has killed over 100,000 people in this country over the past year) seriously? If not, may I ask why?!
     
  10. Ashton Bantam

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    Every single decision/action we take in life has a risk associated with it. You've a 1 in 240 chance of dying in a car crash over your lifetime - far higher than the risk of death from COVID. Are you never going to get into a car again?

    When did we as a species stop being able to understand the concept of risk and rationalise it?

    If you don't want to go, then don't. But we need to learn to live with this like we do all other endemic viruses. The 7 day rolling average of deaths is at it lowest since March 15th 2020 - pre first lockdown. If we don't get back to some sort of normality now, we never will. And if we don't, then quite frankly life isn't worth living.
     
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    It's not personal opinion - it's fact. We, as a society, are nowhere near COVID-secure enough to allow for football fans to attend.

    You're wasting your money, it won't happen.
     
  12. bantamlad92

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    What a load of absolute nonsense.
     
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    We are going to have to live with COVID-19 at some stage there is going to be a small risk which hopefully will be well mitigated.
    Unless things change badly we should be looking forward to august
     
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    Let everyone else make their own decision whether they will be wasting money and we will let you make your own decision. But stop preaching
     
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    Every single decision/action we take in life has a risk associated with it. You've a 1 in 240 chance of dying in a car crash over your lifetime - far higher than the risk of death from COVID. Are you never going to get into a car again?

    When did we as a species stop being able to understand the concept of risk and rationalise it?

    If you don't want to go, then don't. But we need to learn to live with this like we do all other endemic viruses. The 7 day rolling average of deaths is at it lowest since March 15th 2020 - pre first lockdown. If we don't get back to some sort of normality now, we never will. And if we don't, then quite frankly life isn't worth living.
    Care to elaborate?
     
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  16. Aaron Baker

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    Okay, I think I need to take a step back here because it's spiraling.

    How would people usually find out. The government would tell the media and then the media would tell the people? Fair enough?

    On this occasion - because the change is common sense rather than scientific and regulatory - they haven't told the media but the information has still been found and distributed.

    If there is nothing on the internet to suggest the advice counts for Bradford, and nothing in the media to suggest it counts for Bradford......then why would there be any confusion about whether it counts for Bradford?
     
  17. Aaron Baker

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    And I get that but if you're saying that was wrong, and it probably was, then moving towards less of a spoon-feeding, gentle set of advice is a good thing.
     
  18. Storck

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    There isn’t but who knows what else has been added to web pages if there are no announcements.
     
  19. bantamlad92

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    I think it’s very much about common sense, as you alluded to.

    If our next door neighbours, Kirklees, are being told not to leave the area then we absolutely should not.

    Stay at home, protect the NHS and save lives. It’s not difficult to follow.
     
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