COVID-19

In the central belt they are shut completely

 

Im not a fan generally but she’s been much more competent than our shambles in this pandemic

 

Yep. Definitely can't see them reducing restrictions when Scotland are tightening them.

Lockdown 2 looks to be coming over the horizon. It's the only thing that seems to work. As well intentioned as these middle ground restrictions are it just seems to be hammering through them and getting out of control.

 

I think England will follow suit on this near half term. Perfect opportunity we won’t want to miss. Shut all pubs etc week before and half term week. Kids off. And hopefully a short “circuit break” as they keep calling it.

 

Nah not a patch on Diane Abbott all the info at the tip of her fingers.

 

Lockdowns don't work at all...They pause something but unless we increase testing and track & trace then lockdowns are nonsense.

 

What caused the dramatic decrease of infections, hospitalisations and deaths between April and June?

 

That's what a lock down is supposed to do, pause the outbreak. So they do work.

Increased testing is also showing more cases as you would expect.

It's the vaccine that will be the way to reduce restrictions, eventually to nil and back to some sort of normality.

 

We're not going pause everything until a vaccine..So no it doesn't! MIGHT NEVER BE A VACCINE!!

Increase testing and then people should be doing what they have too then you get track and trace.

However, the cure now is worse than the problem. Millions will lose their job now in that sector if they look to bring this in England as well. Hearing it could only be the North though. Funny that!!

 

It wasn't ever going to solve anything though.

Unless the government was going to pay everyone their annual income and cover all costs for businesses until a vaccine.

It's just a life support! Never the answer!

 

Sorry Fordy. I think you missed the question.

What caused the dramatic decrease of infections, hospitalisations and deaths between April and June?

 

I think you should phrase it "appears more competent". Have a look at her record on Prestwick Airport, the shipbuilding fiasco, the decision to delay the publication of the long awaited report into the transfer of hospital patients with Covid infections into Care Homes, the cancellation of the 2021 census. The list goes on. The only thing she won't cancel is indyref2
Had she adopted the same strategy for Glasgow as she had in Aberdeen several weeks earlier today's announcement for the whole central belt might not have been needed.
In true SNP style her supporters came first.

 

I was using your reference to the virus being paused will not be eradicated by lockdown. You have just argued against your own point. Bizarre.

Lockdown slows the virus spreading or is intended to do so which you also said.

 

You're brave guessing what Fordy means! He still didn't answer the question and there's a reason for that.

And I agree completely with your analogy but the problem seems to be that the bucket is beginning to overflow again.

The issue is that lockdown worked in controlling the flow. We've tried to do something in the middle but it's not having the same effect so they're going to move closer and closer to the lockdown scenario until it slows to an acceptable level.

I'm completely aware of the wider issues of other health problems, mental health and all those things but we all have to accept that nobody is going to let this thing run wild. The balance between the two just looks impossible at the moment.

 

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502795-boris-johnson-uk-great-reset/

New World Order

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/firm-run-ex-associate-tory-22810575

And on it goes. Unquestioned. Corrupt government to the core. Get rid of the lot

 

The hospitality sector is being thrown under the bus to make it look like those in charge are doing something.

The 10pm curfew has no effect on the rates, there is no scientific evidence behind it, it's simply plucked out to make it look like something is being done.

The rule of six could be a rule of four, five, seven, eight, etc. It's just a figure plucked out of the air to make it look like things are being done. How can a rule where someone could have 5 other household within their home be seen safer than a family of 4 meeting up with a family of 3 at a park to play football and ride their bikes. Call it out for what it is, it's bollocks.

The new Scottish Rules which idiots like the cabinet will be discussing right now will lay waste to the hospitality sector in north. Before schools and universities went back the highest rates in the UK were comfortably under 100 per 100k. Now schools and universities are back rates are over 500 per 100k in parts of the UK. So where is the science to suggest a rule of six, a 10pm closing or the hospitality sector play any part in these rates?

I don't blame the schools or universities and I believe that education should be prioritised but lets not thrown a whole sector under the bus as a distraction for what is really causing the spike. Instead of shuting the whole hospitality sector wouldn't it be a good idea to have home based learning at universities instead? Who sanctioned the universities going back with thousands of students moving but appears to take no blame for what is happening.

The governments and ruling parties in Scotland, Wales and England are directing the blame to an easy target and have let it roll from there. It's one of the reasons they keep throwing out there for not allowing fans back into football grounds, because as far as they are concerned, everyone who enters a football ground is a hooligan who has spent all day in the pub and is tanked up, which is utter rubbish.

We are allowing the government to run the agenda no questions asked and focusing in the wrong areas. This is a great diversion from the complete cluster feck of losing 16k test results.

The leaders in the north led by Andy Burnham are starting to call out this for what it is, a bingo machine full of policies with no scientific basis in order to apply restrictions that don't work with no end game.

We have had restrictions in Bradford applied when the rate was 54 per 100k, about 80% of the country is way above that but are under no lockdown, and we aren't going to be coming out of lockdown at all as things stand and for what cause? We are told 80% of transmission is via household mixing, that is banned and has been banned since July, so this stat is garbage, and if it isn;t where is the proof? Hancock's never line of defense is to not let the virus rip as a way to deflect the Shizzle policies that are having no effect.

The people are no longer on board, and when you lose the people you quickly lose power. If the government can't back up their actions or won't back up their actions with facts everything will soon be ignored.